Tiger Woods has a new look.
But does it change his image?
The fresh-faced phenom is now grizzled?
What do you think of the Tiger Beard?

PR, Social Media, Pop Culture and Sports
June 29th, 2011 — #SportsPRChat
Tiger Woods has a new look.
But does it change his image?
The fresh-faced phenom is now grizzled?
What do you think of the Tiger Beard?

October 13th, 2010 — #SportsPRChat, PR, Sports
The headline reads: “Transgender woman sues LPGA for ‘female at birth’ rule”
Say what??????
Here’s the deal: The LPGA, the women’s professional golf tour, apparently has ruled that to be eligible to play on their circuit, you must have been born a female.
If someone undergoes gender reassignment surgery, they are doing just about everything possible to give up their previous identity. In fact, scientific advances may allow for child-bearing in transgendered male-to-females. Wild, right?
Back to golf.
The issue at hand is civil rights. Did the LPGA violate civil rights by prohibiting transgenders from playing on Tour? Kind of a loaded question. Does undergoing a gender reassignment switch your past genetics?
Said better: does changing your gender legally erase your original gender?
That seems like a really serious topic for a sports organization to be faced with.
So the LPGA stands between a rock and a hard place: their Tour was created to give a competitive golf experience to women…how do they handle excluding someone who is legally a woman under the United States government?
Let me turn this one over to smart people like you. How should the LGPA respond from a PR capacity?
July 11th, 2010 — Pop Culture, PR, Sports, Wrestling
Last week, when NBA superstar LeBron James decided to bolt Cleveland to join the Miami Heat, I, along with many others, compared it to Hulk Hogan turning evil and joining the NWO.
That got me thinking about other notable “heel turns.” In wrestling terms, when a good guy goes EVIL, it’s called a heel turn, referencing inside labels for good guys (babyfaces) and bad guys (heels).
So what constitutes a turn?
Well, it’s usually easy to pinpoint the moment where the person does something heinous or a revelation about them emerges which drastically changes our perception of them. Someone that has always been controversial or had wide-spread negative perceptions surrounding them doesn’t qualify. Basically, lifelong jerks don’t count. A heel turn is a fall from grace that is difficult to ever recover from.
With that said, I present to you the Top 5 Real Life Sports “Heel Turns:”
Honorable Mentions: Jack McDowell flipping the bird to Yankee Stadium, Lance Armstrong splitting with Sheryl Crow during her cancer treatment (I mean…REALLY?????), Roberto Alomar spitting on umpire John Hirschbeck
#5 – Michael Vick Bankrolls Dogfighting Operation: Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick
was arguable the most electrifying player in the NFL. His unorthodox style kept fans on the edge of their seat – would he throw a touchdown or get sacked for a 30-yard loss? Both outcomes happened quite often, but everyone wanted to watch. He played the position like millions of video game players manipulated their controllers.
He was the face of his franchise, one of the most marketable players in the league. Under his direction, the Falcons became a premiere team in the league. Their signature win came on January 1, 2003, when Vick and the birds upset heavily-favored Green Bay at storied Lambeau Field in the playoffs, the Packers’ first home playoff loss ever.
While his demeanor soured slowly as the team struggled, the summer of 2007 was when he went full-blown heel. That summer, evidence of Vick bankrolling a large dogfighting ring, with harsh imagery from rape stands to drownings to hangings, blew up…and so did his career. Vick went to jail, and while he has returned to the league, his reputation is irreparable. (Note: I previously discussed Michael Vick here)
#4 – Rafael Palmeiro Wags His Guilty Finger: There are several ways to get into a sport’s
Hall of Fame. Be GREAT…or be REALLY GOOD for a long time. Baseball star Rafael Palmeiro, sitting on nearly two decades of REALLY GOOD, was finishing out his career, with a ticket seemingly punched for Cooperstown, NY.
There are, however, ways to block your own induction to the Hall of Fame. Embarrassing yourself and your sport in front of Congress is pretty decent way to do just that.
Testifying under oath on March 17, 2005, Palmeiro swore to Congress he had never done steroids, famously wagging his finger at them, almost shaming them for even considering that fact.
That August, Palmeiro tested positive for the steroid stanozolol. He was immediately suspended for 10 games. While he was reinstated after serving his time, the one-time champion of goodness became a poster boy for all that was wrong with the game at the time. The Congressional nature of his case brings his lying to a higher level. Now, the only way he will see the Hall of Fame is with a ticket…if they even let him in.
#3 – Ray Lewis, Murder and Redemption: By January 31, 2000, Baltimore Ravens linebacker
Ray Lewis was entering the prime of his career. He had already been named to two All Pro Team, led the NFL in tackles and was seen as an emerging leader of the premier defense in the league. His popularity became national, as his hard, aggressive style of play endeared himself to all gridiron fans.
However, that night, everything changed. While the exact events remain a mystery, here is what we know: Lewis was involved in a back alley fight, which led to the stabbing deaths of two men on the opposite side. Lewis was charged with murder, and the image of a top athlete sitting in his trial every day wearing prison jumpsuits was prevalent.
At the end of the day, Lewis agreed to take a lesser charge to testify against his co-defendants. The NFL fined Lewis $250,000 and his image was in tatters.
I included Lewis in this list because of how shocking the image was: one of the most popular players in his league charged with murder.
However, also to be mentioned is how Lewis found redemption. A decade of distance from the murder, Lewis has shown remorse for his involvement, dedicated himself to community service and mentoring young players in the league, trying to make sure nobody makes the mistakes he did.
He has become a “spiritual leader” of the Ravens and the NFL – a weathered warrior who has seen the worst and emerged from it a better man. So while his heel turn was shocking, his return to good graces has been inspiring.
#2 – Tiger Woods Likes The Ladies: LeBron James wants to be a global brand…Tiger Woods
IS. He dominated with PGA Tour for more than a decade, taking the game to greater popularity than ever before. A man bred to win at golf, Tiger’s focus, fitness and precision were legendary. Part marketing play and part psychological ploy, if you saw Tiger wearing red on Sunday, you knew he was winning.
He endorsed top-flight brands and products and it all made sense – he was top-flight. He was a family man, living the perfect life.
On November 25, 2009, a report came out of Tiger being in a single-car crash late at night in his gated community in Florida. Which led to a report of a mistress. Which opened the floodgates.
Women upon women upon women came forward claiming to have had sexual relationships with Tiger Woods. And he didn’t deny it! Because there wasn’t anything to deny.
And it was over. His run at the top of the sport – as it’s best player, biggest star and most popular competitor, the scads of rich endorsement contracts, the life people dream of…all of it, gone. Tiger walked away from golf for several months, a tense time of supposed rehab for his addiction and trying to repair his marriage.
While he has returned to golf and kept some sponsorships, he is no longer THE golfer. His life is in shambles and the man who cherished his privacy is forced to see the world watch it.
#1 – OJ Simpson and The White Bronco: Hall of Famer football player and successful actor
and commentator OJ Simpson did it right. After an illustrious playing career, he successfully moved on to other arenas. He was not a national treasure (like, say, Mike Ditka or Betty White), but he was respected and recognized everywhere.
His ex-wife, Nicole Brown, and her friend Ron Goldman, were found dead at their home on June 12, 1994. Five days later, Simpson, the prime suspect, was involved an in infamous low-speed car chase. Police chased a white Bronco SUV for hours around Los Angeles. The footage interrupted the NBA championship and began a national obsession with the case.
Finally apprehended, Simpson’s trial gripped people coast-to-coast. The former Heisman Trophy winner’s court battle touched a nerve with people, headlines, ratings, dinner-table discussions and workplace arguments.
The announcement of the verdict sits as one of those “you always remember where you were” moments, along with 9/11 and JFK’s assassination. And despite his acquittal, Simpson remains a villain in pop culture…and the legal system. He is currently serving nearly a decade of jail time on numerous felonies, including armed robbery and kidnapping.
What other real life sports heel turns would you include?
February 25th, 2010 — #SportsPRChat
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| 8:19 pm | ithakid: | @mikeschaffer Sorry, can’t make #SportsPRChat today! Big announcement coming on Monday, though! I might need your insight about it. |
| 8:36 pm | mikeschaffer: | 30 mins until #SportsPRChat – Talking Olympics, UFC, Tiger…and more! |
| 8:53 pm | tressalynne: | Top Media Trainers Dissect Tiger’s Talk: Embarrassing PR Failure or First Step Back?http://bit.ly/a7xwS4 #SportsPRChat #pr |
| 8:54 pm | Seanbiscuit9: | RT @mikeschaffer: 30 mins until #SportsPRChat – Talking Olympics, UFC, Tiger…and more! |
| 8:57 pm | AXP112: | Hoping to make some great new networking connections today during #sportsprchat |
| 9:00 pm | mikeschaffer: | Welcome to a slightly rescheduled #SportsPRChat! Sorry for the switch – my laptop needs CPR! Q1 coming in 1 min – say hi! |
| 9:01 pm | AXP112: | Hi @mikeschaffer I’m joining #sportsprchat for the first time today…hoping to make some great networking connections while chatting. |
| 9:01 pm | tshepard: | Sad I won’t be able to participate in #SportsPRChat today. Have lots of @LansingChamber directories to deliver! |
| 9:02 pm | mikeschaffer: | Q1 – What do you think of NBC’s coverage of the Olympics so far? (purposely broad) #SportsPRChat |
| 9:02 pm | MattLaCasse: | Hi everyone! PR Free Agent Matt LaCasse #sportsprchat |
| 9:03 pm | eglomb: | hi guys! #SportsPRChat |
| 9:03 pm | MattLaCasse: | Q1 I’ve only watched curling and hockey. Both have been live, so I have no issues. Tape delaying stuff is stupid though #SportsPRChat |
| 9:04 pm | Seanbiscuit9: | Hey #SportsPRChat, Former Michigander, Current Baltimorean, PR professional here. |
| 9:04 pm | bitty_boop: | Q1 I haven’t really been watching the Olympics. I feel like there’s nothing too exciting to expect #sportsprchat |
| 9:04 pm | Jfavreau: | @mikeschaffer Q1 I think it is awful. Hockey nut that I am they cut into and out of games. Never started on time. #sportsprchat |
| 9:04 pm | ngoss: | Q1 -Little dissapointed. Thought we’d see more “live” events in prime time. Not entirely NBC fault though. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:04 pm | juleszunich: | My first #sportsprchat / Jules Zunich / tons of golf & health & fitness pr experience |
| 9:05 pm | Seanbiscuit9: | Q1 Missed some events I wanted to see due to delay or it being on another NBC network. Missed Curling and Hockey #SportsPRChat |
| 9:05 pm | jonlustig: | Q1 I’ve said this before, you can’t cover sports people don’t care about straight. All the story elements makes sense to me. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:06 pm | jonlustig: | Q1 In terms of stuff like dumping hockey to MSNBC, PR wise, it’s been awful. But NBC doesn’t care. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:06 pm | sherylgudelsky: | Dont get MSNBC, mad to miss USA/CAN.They had lots of viewers, & it would have been in their best interest to put game on NBC #sportsprchat |
| 9:06 pm | christinet6d: | Q1: Terrible. So bad. That could also be due to the fact that I can’t stand Bob Costas. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:06 pm | juleszunich: | Q1 #sportsprchat: NBC has done a great job…better than any I remember |
| 9:07 pm | mikeschaffer: | RT @jrdischinger @mikeschaffer Pretty sad. As 26 yearold male they are way too focused on subjective vs. objective sports. #sportsprchat |
| 9:07 pm | Seanbiscuit9: | Q1 Will give them this credit, really enjoyed seeing all the stuff about Canada. Really want to head to Vancouver someday. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:07 pm | AXP112: | Q1 I’ve been more disappointed with the ESPN alerts coming out moments before “live” events end. Such as the women’s bobsled #sportsprchat |
| 9:07 pm | MVNUSID: | @TimCary I encourage you to check out #sportsprchat that’s going on right now. You’ll make some new connections. |
| 9:07 pm | eglomb: | Q1: other than the fact that I don’t get msnbc and I haven’t seen a single hockey game or curling it’s okay #SportsPRChat |
| 9:08 pm | elenaellie: | Q1 Stephen Colbert is rockin’ it, i think he should get some credit for NBC ratings…the colbert bump #sportsPRchat |
| 9:08 pm | jonlustig: | Q1 NBC put out demo numbers that say 56% of their Olympics audience is women. That’s why their coverage is done the way it is. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:08 pm | mikeschaffer: | After the luge death, seems they are featuring that track more than usual #sportsprchat |
| 9:08 pm | jeffespo: | @mikeschaffer Pretty weak keeping hockey on MSNBC #sportsprchat |
| 9:08 pm | MattLaCasse: | @mikeschaffer @jrdischinger Agreed. However, do subjective sports draw more viewers? Reason ice skating is in prime time. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:08 pm | Seanbiscuit9: | Q1 Don’t understand the “turn away from the screen if you don’t want to see who won the medal of the event that’s on later.” #SportsPRChat |
| 9:09 pm | ngoss: | @AXP112 Don’t forget the scrolling bottom line on all their stations #sportsprchat |
| 9:09 pm | MVNUSID: | @elenaellie I agree that Stephen Colbert has been a great addition to the NBC Olympic coverage. #sportsPRchat. |
| 9:09 pm | SportsandaLatte: | @mikeschaffer Q1: I think coverage is cool so far…of course would be better w/HD #sportsPRchat |
| 9:11 pm | mikeschaffer: | Tape delays have helped and hurt my enjoyment of the games #sportsprchat |
| 9:11 pm | AXP112: | @ngoss ESPN alerts sent to my phone. Got one about 3 minutes before the last run (USA currently 2nd) saying we win bronze #sportsprchat |
| 9:11 pm | mikeschaffer: | RT @jeffespo: @mikeschaffer Pretty weak keeping hockey on MSNBC #sportsprchat |
| 9:11 pm | _nikimurray_: | Q1: Besides hockey, I think I’ve only watched highlights on ESPN #SportsPRChat |
| 9:11 pm | han_ma: | RT @Jason_Pollock: Dear NBC, thank you for playing soap opera’s during the winter olympics. NOT!!!!!!!:) #sportsprchat |
| 9:12 pm | TimCary: | Q1 Wish NBC showed more live events, but they’ve always operated same way. Differnce is info comes faster from other sources. #sportsprchat |
| 9:12 pm | mikeschaffer: | @SportsandaLatte you’d be shocked how bad athletes look in HD after a long competition! #sportsprchat |
| 9:12 pm | UC_SID: | Q1 I hate NBC’s coverage. hops around too much. Hate they stick ads online during hockey gms when there are none on TV #SportsPRChat |
| 9:12 pm | MVNUSID: | @mikeschaffer At least the delays are not as bad as when the Olympis were on the other side of the globe. #sportsPRchat |
| 9:12 pm | BrityVP: | @mikeschaffer RT Q2 but don’t you think it’s interesting after the bobsled accident, athletes are pulling our of competition #sportsprchat |
| 9:12 pm | UC_SID: | Colbert has been awesome. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:12 pm | mikeschaffer: | RT @ErichHeber NBC’s coverage has been an embarrassment. People want to see live coverage of Olympics and are not getting it. #sportsprchat |
| 9:13 pm | SportsandaLatte: | Q1; If NBC had aired USA/CAN game it would have been on tape delay…then CT and PT viewers would have been more upset #sportsPRchat |
| 9:13 pm | michaelmolinar: | @mikeschaffer is it the tape delay or all the online instant alerts like Twitter/ESPN that ruin it? #sportsprchat |
| 9:13 pm | mikeschaffer: | Q2 coming in 2 mins! #sportsprchat |
| 9:14 pm | mikeschaffer: | @michaelmolinar good point. email alerts, mostly #sportsprchat |
| 9:14 pm | _nikimurray_: | Q1: With todays tech, its hard to wait to watch events that can’t be shown live. Spoilers everywhere #SportsPRChat |
| 9:14 pm | Jfavreau: | RT @ErichHeber NBC’s coverage has been an embarrassment. People want to see live coverage of Olympics and are not getting it. #sportsprchat |
| 9:14 pm | julia_flyer: | Q1. If NBC wants to do delayed coverage, they should have gotten agreement from other outlets, so results wouldn’t be leaked. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:14 pm | ngoss: | True! RT @michaelmolinar: @mikeschaffer is it the tape delay or all the online instant alerts like Twitter/ESPN that ruin it? #sportsprchat |
| 9:15 pm | UC_SID: | @michaelmolinar tape delay for me. I want to know the result as it happens #sportsprchat |
| 9:15 pm | NearJay: | RT @mikeschaffer: Q1 – What do you think of NBC’s coverage of the Olympics so far? (purposely broad) #SportsPRChat |
| 9:15 pm | AXP112: | Q1 I mostly feel like the tape delay isn’t necessary because its only a 3 hour delay in time. Should have more live. #sportsprchat |
| 9:15 pm | JoshHull: | @mikeschaffer #sportsprchat I think the free HD feed over the air looks incredible. I watch on NBC 4 in DC. Flatscreen with antenna |
| 9:15 pm | UC_SID: | @michaelmolinar if I know it’s happening NOW, I want to know the result NOW #sportsprchat |
| 9:15 pm | mikeschaffer: | Q2 – via @amybp – Does the Mancuso/Vonn skiing rivalry hurt sponsorship opportunities? (Top 2 skiiers don’t get along) #SportsPRChat |
| 9:15 pm | NearJay: | RT @julia_flyer: Q1. If NBC wants to do delayed coverage, they should have gotten agreement from other outlets, so results wouldn’t be leaked. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:15 pm | MVNUSID: | RT @AXP112: Q1 I mostly feel like the tape delay isn’t necessary because its only a 3 hour delay in time. Should have more live. #sportsprchat |
| 9:15 pm | Jfavreau: | Q1 Another thing which ticks me off living in a border city is this is the 1st year we can’t have the Canadian option. #Sportsprchat |
| 9:16 pm | UC_SID: | RT @julia_flyer: Q1. NBC should have gotten agreement from other outlets, so results wouldn’t be leaked. #SportsPRChat [not gonna happen] |
| 9:17 pm | eglomb: | Q1: I’m irritated by the fact that it’s nearly impossible without paying to watch any highlights on the vancouver2010 site #SportsPRChat |
| 9:17 pm | NearJay: | RT @mikeschaffer: Q2 – via @amybp – Does the Mancuso/Vonn skiing rivalry hurt sponsorship opportunities? (Top 2 skiiers don’t get along) #SportsPRChat |
| 9:17 pm | AXP112: | Q2 I don’t think it hurts them individually, esp. after she said it wasn’t Vonn’s fault. Just odd “officiating” by IOC. #sportsprchat |
| 9:17 pm | UC_SID: | yes & no … controversy draws attn. so that could help. but if they aren’t willing to work together, then no use trying #sportsprchat |
| 9:17 pm | MVNUSID: | @mikeschaffer Q2 Not sure about hurting the sponsorship opps, but man did the SI cover jinx get them or what?! #sportsPRchat |
| 9:18 pm | Ath4Hope: | Q2 Dont rivalries usually help? plz explain the question #sportsprchat |
| 9:18 pm | julia_flyer: | Q2. They should either put it aside in the public eye, or play it up, ala college rivalries. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:18 pm | juleszunich: | Q2 – via @amybp – Does the Mancuso/Vonn skiing rivalry hurt sponsorship opportunities? #SportsPRchat ~ no in this climate it probably helps |
| 9:18 pm | NearJay: | Q2 when has frienemy situations not helped the bottom line? #sportsprchat Sadly it may help women in sports get better coverage. |
| 9:19 pm | MattLaCasse: | Q2 It shouldn’t. Tiger and Phil not being best friends didn’t hurt either’s ability to market themselves (pre-scandal). #SportsPRChat |
| 9:19 pm | FFasoyinu: | Q2: My prediction is sponsors will get them to unite in a joint venture to raise profile of alpine success at these olympics. #SportsPRchat |
| 9:19 pm | _nikimurray_: | Q2: I think the fact that it’s skiing and not many people pay attention hurts sponsorship opportunities #SportsPRChat |
| 9:19 pm | elenaellie: | Is there crying in Olympics? can we talk about the crying – hurts or helps? #sportsprchat |
| 9:19 pm | mikeschaffer: | RT @david_schwab 1)Rivalries add endorsements/tv coverage not detract 2)Skiing $ issue=lack of TV/interest during non-Oly yrs #sportsprchat |
| 9:20 pm | katiebailey: | Q2 – I think the Mancuso/Vonn rivalry may help Mancuso — seemed like all Vonn before. Now she’s actually in conversation. #sportsPRchat |
| 9:20 pm | JoshHull: | #SportsPRChat or should I say NBC 4.1. . . Universal Sports on 4.3 is handy but Standard Def (SD). |
| 9:20 pm | mikeschaffer: | @Ath4Hope If Mancuso is perceived has “bad guy,” does that hurt her earning potential, despite being top skiier? #sportsprchat |
| 9:20 pm | julia_flyer: | #SportsPRChat @jobu415 @jtannenwald @UC_SID Then NBC should provide live coverage. |
| 9:21 pm | _nikimurray_: | @David_Schwab Agreed #SportsPRChat |
| 9:21 pm | UC_SID: | @elenaellie crying helps NBC tell ‘its’ stories #sportsprchat |
| 9:21 pm | MattLaCasse: | Q2 Does it really even matter? I mean, when’s the last time you saw an oly. athlete other than Phelps outside the Oly. window? #Sportsprchat |
| 9:21 pm | AXP112: | To go against @david_schwab‘s post, What about @ApoloOhno? He seems to have done well in a “non-popular” sport in no-oly. year #sportsprchat |
| 9:22 pm | mikeschaffer: | RT @jrdischinger Not in PR, would say no. As long as they’re not bickering directly. Back door takes away, not unsponsorable #sportsprchat |
| 9:22 pm | UC_SID: | @julia_flyer I SO AGREE IT SHOULD … we live in 21st century. NBC should too #SportsPRChat |
| 9:22 pm | mikeschaffer: | Remember to use the #SportsPRChat hashtag! |
| 9:23 pm | mikeschaffer: | Today’s #SportsPRChat is brought to you by teenage ironman @hunterlussi! |
| 9:23 pm | jonlustig: | Q2 Rivalries usually end up helping to make both better known. Vonn is still perceived as top skier though. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:23 pm | eglomb: | Q2: well after Vonn crashing last night and Mancuso having to do a re-do I don’t see them getting along any better #SportsPRChat |
| 9:23 pm | Ath4Hope: | @mikeschaffer OK, we think some companies might like bad guy image. could work 4 her. Depends if a character like mcenroe #sportsprchat |
| 9:23 pm | NearJay: | RT @mikeschaffer: Remember to use the #SportsPRChat hashtag! |
| 9:23 pm | mikeschaffer: | Q3 coming in 2 mins! (leaving Olympics, if that’s OK) #sportsprchat |
| 9:24 pm | SportsandaLatte: | Agreed! RT @julia_flyer: Q2. They should either put it aside in the public eye, or play it up, ala college rivalries. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:24 pm | UC_SID: | @mikeschaffer it very much OK #sportsprchat |
| 9:24 pm | NearJay: | RT @katiebailey: Q2 – I think the Mancuso/Vonn rivalry may help Mancuso — seemed like all Vonn before. Now she’s actually in conversation. #sportsPRchat |
| 9:25 pm | katiebailey: | Semi-related, who is justified to be angrier: Sven Kramer (NED speedskater) or Julia Mancuso? #sportsPRchat |
| 9:25 pm | Ath4Hope: | @mikeschaffer why thank you, or as mancuso would say waaaaaaaaaaaaa #sportsprchat |
| 9:25 pm | Jfavreau: | I think the rivalry should help. I haven’t paid much att. to the skiing. #sportsprchat |
| 9:25 pm | LindsayNK9: | sneaking in to check out the #sportsprchat ! |
| 9:25 pm | SportsandaLatte: | Q2: I think the rivalry could be an opportunity for sponsors! If it’s a healthy, competitive one #sportsPRchat |
| 9:26 pm | UC_SID: | @katiebailey Kramer. He had the gold in hand on to have it stripped away #sportsPRchat |
| 9:26 pm | AXP112: | @katiebailey No doubt its Sven! #sportsprchat |
| 9:27 pm | mikeschaffer: | Q3 – via @Worob Good PR move? “UFC Forces Fighter to Apologize for ‘Death’ Comments”http://bit.ly/6oah44 #SportsPRChat |
| 9:27 pm | julia_flyer: | @AXP112 Again with the cycle. He was smart and stayed in the public eye is what I’m trying to say, I guess. #sportsprchat |
| 9:27 pm | sherylgudelsky: | the rivalry has given Mancuso a better opportunity for deals, she was way under the radar before, esp compared to vonn #sportsprchat |
| 9:28 pm | NearJay: | RT @mikeschaffer: Q3 – via @Worob Good PR move? “UFC Forces Fighter to Apologize for ‘Death’ Comments” http://bit.ly/6oah44 #SportsPRChat |
| 9:29 pm | amybp: | RT @mikeschaffer:Q2 – via @amybp does Mancuso/Vonn rivalry hurt sponsorship opp? #SportsPRChat~ Think Mancuso’s comments made it hard 4 her |
| 9:29 pm | katiebailey: | @UC_SID To play devil’s advocate, Kramer could have ignored his coach & won gold. Who has time to think in that situation tho? #sportsPRchat |
| 9:29 pm | jonlustig: | Q3 Good move. UFC wants to be taken seriously, won’t be if seen to tolerate stuff like that. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:29 pm | _nikimurray_: | Q3: It keeps the story going – we’re still talking about it (UFC apology) #SportsPRChat |
| 9:29 pm | FFasoyinu: | It’s Dana’s show. He keeps everyone in line. Good move to get an apology issued. #sportsprchat. |
| 9:30 pm | UC_SID: | Q3 IDK … seems like UFC is going PC on itself which seems to be counterproductive #sportsPRchat |
| 9:30 pm | Sean_Flynn: | Q3 Bad PR ; good PC move. Why mask a character? That’s what fans want to hear/see. Like bands being drunk at Awards shows. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:30 pm | UC_SID: | @katiebailey that is true, but like you said, who has time to think in that situation. Plus, most Oly athletes listen to coach #sportsPRchat |
| 9:30 pm | julia_flyer: | Are they trying to come off as family friendly? RT @UC_SID: Q3 seems like UFC is going PC which seems to be counterproductive #sportsPRchat |
| 9:30 pm | ngoss: | Agreed… RT @jonlustig: Q3 Good move. UFC wants to be taken seriously, won’t be if seen to tolerate stuff like that. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:31 pm | katiebailey: | @UC_SID @michaelmolinar Devil’s advocate aside, I agree w you both. Felt awful for both of them. Glad both have other medals. #sportsPRchat |
| 9:31 pm | jrdischinger: | @mikeschaffer Death chat not needed in ANY sport nor part of ANY sport UFC,NFL,Bowling etc Death=serious Sports=entertainment #SportsPRChat |
| 9:31 pm | MattLaCasse: | Q3 @jonlustig Agreed. Point of UFC is to win a fight, not kill someone. Idea that fighters want to KILL each other is bad PR #SportsPRChat |
| 9:31 pm | UC_SID: | If UFC wants to be treat as a legit sport, good move. otherwise, they’re just another version of the WWE #sportsPRchat |
| 9:32 pm | elenaellie: | Q3 Fascinating analysis in the article – apologies certainly seem to be in vogue, hard not to respond to such viceral detail #sportsprchat |
| 9:32 pm | julia_flyer: | RT @AXP112: Q3 The right move. No matter how competitive you are, at the end of the day no one wants to see an opponent hurt. #sportsprchat |
| 9:32 pm | UC_SID: | @julia_flyer honestly, IDK if they’re trying to come off family friendly. not a sport I watch much of or want my son to watch #sportsPRchat |
| 9:33 pm | mitchderman: | @jeffespo Totally agree. Don’t know why NBC has not shown too many of the hockey games. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:33 pm | FFasoyinu: | @mikeschaffer thanks mike! he does a pretty good job as the face of the org. #sportsprchat |
| 9:33 pm | michaelmolinar: | I agree Mir’s comments went over the line but do we truly believe he really meant every word about wanting to kill Lesnar? #sportsprchat |
| 9:33 pm | julia_flyer: | @UC_SID Same here. But part of sports is respecting your opponents, and UFC is forcing fighters to do that. Kudos to them. #sportsPRchat |
| 9:34 pm | ErichHeber: | @mikeschaffer Disagree. Such a sport filled with violence/aggression comments like that will happen. Just let them fade away #SportsPRChat |
| 9:35 pm | LindsayNK9: | @AXP112 True! it’s all competition, but no one needs to die! #sportsprchat |
| 9:35 pm | UC_SID: | @julia_flyer I agree w/ you on that #sportsPRchat |
| 9:35 pm | mikeschaffer: | Q4 coming in 2 mins! #SportsPRChat |
| 9:35 pm | mikeschaffer: | RT @Ath4Hope: Q3 going out on a limb…death threats generally arent a good PR move #sportsprchat |
| 9:35 pm | katiebailey: | Q3 – I’ll have to catch up on the UFC story. Sadly (or not) I’ve had complete Olympics tunnel vision the past 2 weeks. #sportsPRchat |
| 9:37 pm | michaelmolinar: | Why all the apologies, etc. for Mir when Tyson got a free pass for all the things he said in his career? #sportsprchat |
| 9:37 pm | UC_SID: | @katiebailey no prob being fixated on the Olympics. only come around once every four years #sportsPRchat |
| 9:37 pm | _nikimurray_: | Q3: Does anyone think this falls under “no such thing as bad publicity? #SportsPRChat |
| 9:38 pm | elenaellie: | If the pres of UFC had not responded he would get bad press & now look at all the chatter – achieved 2 goals really effective #sportsprchat |
| 9:38 pm | BGleas: | A little late, hoping to stick my toe in with Q4 #sportsprchat |
| 9:38 pm | mikeschaffer: | Q4 – via @JoshHull – Was ESPN justified in suspending Tony Kornheiser re: comments about Hannah Storm? #sportsprchat |
| 9:39 pm | NearJay: | RT @mikeschaffer: Q4 – via @JoshHull – Was ESPN justified in suspending Tony Kornheiser re: comments about Hannah Storm? #sportsprchat |
| 9:40 pm | AXP112: | Q4 Living here in DC I listen to Kornheiser relatively frequently and have heard alot of the backlash, simple answer. NO #sportsprchat |
| 9:40 pm | knallen: | i think when he was warned previously about it and has made other comments about the way people dress it seems justified. #sportsprchat |
| 9:40 pm | UC_SID: | IDK … I’m kind of torn. He did cross a line, was a bit sexist but 2 weeks??? #sportsPRchat |
| 9:40 pm | AXP112: | Q4 after listening to the audio, I think the suspension didn’t come from the stormy comments, it was the “booming” weight. #sportsprchat |
| 9:41 pm | MattLaCasse: | Q4 Nope. He’s an opinion guy, that’s what he’s paid to do. Comments weren’t offensive. Off-color maybe…not offensive. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:41 pm | _nikimurray_: | Q4: It’s the Disney World dream of everyone getting along. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:41 pm | elenaellie: | Q4 seems to cross the colleague code of honor, and it wasnt necessary. he probly could get away with funny remark, this wsnt #sportsprchat |
| 9:41 pm | UC_SID: | I mean, Dana Jacobson didn’t get 2 wks when she dropped F-bombs and said F*$% TD Jesus at an ESPN function #sportsPRchat |
| 9:41 pm | julia_flyer: | Q4. They need to provide a united face. They are ONE company. #sportsprchat |
| 9:41 pm | sherylgudelsky: | Woman in sports like Storm must expect those things. But not from one of “your own” in the field #sportsPRchat |
| 9:41 pm | elenaellie: | @MattLaCasse hes paid to comment on womens clothing? i guess i never knew! #sportsprchat |
| 9:42 pm | michaelmolinar: | q4 yeah, probably should have been suspended, especially when he got in a 2-for-1 with the Berman comment as well. #sportsprchat |
| 9:42 pm | _nikimurray_: | Q4: Certainly the comments were inappropriate, but they’re calling more attention to it bc the reason for suspension leaked. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:42 pm | jonlustig: | Q4 NO. Even if you think someone should be suspended for comments re provocative clothing, his were lightweight. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:42 pm | BGleas: | Q4 – I’m going to refrain from the Boomer aspect. You’ll know why if you read my bio |
| 9:43 pm | jrdischinger: | @mikeschaffer Yes. Comments uncalled for, though opinionated. ESPN protecting its own. For 2 weeks? That is too long. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:43 pm | MattLaCasse: | @elenaellie He’s paid to comment on whatever he deems fit. Not saying comments were right, but to suspend him is over the top #sportsprchat |
| 9:43 pm | julia_flyer: | Q4. Upon further research. Good on ESPN. He was out of line, and shouldn’t talk about co-workers like that. Esp. on air. #sportsprchat |
| 9:43 pm | Sean_Flynn: | Q4 No, he is paid for his opinion. Don’t muzzle him for doing his job. Good or Bad. #sportsprchat |
| 9:44 pm | BGleas: | Q4 – Similar 2 the Clippers thing early this year, more light was brought on this by the suspension, not the actual comments #sportsprchat |
| 9:44 pm | Ath4Hope: | Q4 If we are going to hold athletes to a high code of coduct, shouldnt this apply to sports media professionals as well? #sportsprchat |
| 9:44 pm | UC_SID: | to be honest the suspension drew more spotlight on the situation. I didn’t know about his comments until he was suspended #sportsPRchat |
| 9:46 pm | UC_SID: | RT @katiebailey Sad but true RT @sherylgudelsky Woman n sports must expect those things. But not from 1 of “your own” #sportsPRchat [agreed] |
| 9:47 pm | elenaellie: | @karlynlothery you following sports chat? 15 more mins click #sportsprchat |
| 9:47 pm | MattLaCasse: | @elenaellie That’s just it…I’m not defending him! |
| 9:47 pm | jonlustig: | Q4 Not the first time he has commented on her clothing choices, always says that she does good work on air when he does. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:48 pm | BGleas: | RT @MattLaCasse: @elenaellie That’s just it…I’m not defending him! |
| 9:48 pm | Sean_Flynn: | @julia_flyer He is paid for commentary. His remarks were not appropriate, but his opinion is what is job is. #sportsprchat |
| 9:48 pm | UC_SID: | BTW, I love #sportsPRchat |
| 9:49 pm | BGleas: | @_nikimurray_ Seems on-air apology and personal call (which he did) to Storm would have kept this much smaller story #sportsprchat |
| 9:49 pm | Sean_Flynn: | Q4–Risking the sake of being attacked here but, sex reversal in the Kornheiser comments and it is a non issue. #sportsprchat |
| 9:49 pm | mikeschaffer: | Q5 – Had to get to this eventually – what did you think of Tiger’s TV show last week? #SportsPRChat |
| 9:49 pm | BGleas: | RT @UC_SID: BTW, I love #sportsPRchat |
| 9:49 pm | julia_flyer: | @Sean_Flynn True. Still not an excuse and doesn’t make it okay. Certain opinions should be kept to yourself. #sportsprchat |
| 9:50 pm | AXP112: | RT @UC_SID: BTW, I love #sportsPRchat // Me too! Can’t wait f or #SIDchat |
| 9:50 pm | sherylgudelsky: | But he is not paid for his opinion on Storm’s appearance #sportsprchat |
| 9:50 pm | tomokeefe1: | Q5: Too little, too late. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:50 pm | UC_SID: | Q5 Tiger need not apology to me. He needs to fix things w/ wife, get his life in order as he wants things. #sportsPRchat |
| 9:50 pm | elenaellie: | Q5 underwhelming #sportsPRchat |
| 9:50 pm | LindsayNK9: | Q5: Tiger’s statement was long overdue…i thought it would’ve prevented all the press to be sooner #sportsprchat |
| 9:50 pm | UC_SID: | I just want to see him play golf. His apology seemed more of a PR stunt #sportsPRchat |
| 9:51 pm | AXP112: | Q5 cant comment on it because i didn’t watch live because of #HAPPO but highlights show me that you see what you want from it #sportsprchat |
| 9:51 pm | knallen: | i think it was addressed too late. i mean yeah props to him for addressing it but waited too long #sportsprchat |
| 9:51 pm | BGleas: | @sherylgudelsky Ok, so now ESPN has to make a list of things he’s paid to give his opinion on? #sportsprchat |
| 9:51 pm | julia_flyer: | Q5: Didn’t watch. No questions, what’s the point? I got the gist of it later, and he was apologizing to the wrong audience. #sportsPRchat |
| 9:51 pm | FFasoyinu: | I feel bad for him…saying that speech was brutal. he would have done better firing from his heart than what he delivered #sportsprchat |
| 9:51 pm | MattLaCasse: | Q5 It meant absolutely nothing if he’s not answering questions. Answer questions and you become more believable. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:52 pm | smayknicks: | #SportsPRChat – Staged for sponsor dollars nothing more nothing less. About as robotic as they come |
| 9:52 pm | UC_SID: | and it was much to do about nothing #sportsPRchat |
| 9:52 pm | jrdischinger: | @mikeschaffer Was first step. Seemed genuine, though out & planned. Typical Tiger personality. Not polished public speaker. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:52 pm | Sean_Flynn: | Agreed. RT @julia_flyer: Still not an excuse and doesn’t make it okay. Certain opinions should be kept to yourself. #sportsprchat |
| 9:52 pm | jonlustig: | Q5 Didnt change my opinion one way or the other. Said the right things. To make a statement and then walk out was not helpful. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:53 pm | LindsayNK9: | @tomokeefe1 @knallen Yes! exactly! #sportsprchat |
| 9:53 pm | _nikimurray_: | Q5: I thought the coverage was overkill. Not like we’re in the middle of the Olympics or trade deadlines or anything… #SportsPRChat |
| 9:53 pm | julia_flyer: | Agree with all of this. RT @AXP112 cant comment-i didn’t watch because of #HAPPO but highlights show you see what you want #sportsprchat |
| 9:53 pm | UC_SID: | RT @julia_flyer: he was apologizing to the wrong audience. #sportsPRchat [AGREED. He needs to apologize to Elin & family, not us] |
| 9:53 pm | smayknicks: | #SportsPRChat and attack on media at end was comical .. sorry Tiger you don’t get to control the world |
| 9:53 pm | jrdischinger: | @mikeschaffer Just because it was written, rehearsed & robotic doesn’t mean we should judge him for his public speaking skills #SportsPRChat |
| 9:54 pm | mikeschaffer: | RT @ErichHeber If intent was to bring back lost sponsors/fans he probably failed. only medicine is a return to golf +major win #sportsprchat |
| 9:54 pm | UC_SID: | RT @_nikimurray_: Q5 thought the coverage was overkill. #SportsPRChat [exactly, esp. since he told us NOTHING. didn't even hint at a return] |
| 9:54 pm | _nikimurray_: | Q5: Thing that I most remember: he called his actions “foolish.” Writers had months to plan and they came up with that adj? #SportsPRChat |
| 9:55 pm | Ath4Hope: | q5 what is at the center of the apology? is it about his family life or his misrepresentation of himself to his fans?#sportsprchat |
| 9:55 pm | mikeschaffer: | Q6 Coming in 2 mins! #SportsPRChat |
| 9:55 pm | Sean_Flynn: | Q5-Here’s is what NYC thought about Tiger (Pic taken last Friday in Time’s Sq) http://yfrog.com/37tg0lj#sportsprchat |
| 9:55 pm | sherylgudelsky: | apology clouded even further by discussion of various motives for speaking out. never good. #sportsprchat |
| 9:55 pm | katiebailey: | Q5 – Better late than never… barely. Damage done. Best part was the end tho, where it felt most genuine and less rehearsed. #sportsPRchat |
| 9:56 pm | UC_SID: | @Ath4Hope seemed like he was just trying to stay to media to leave him alone #sportsprchat |
| 9:56 pm | _nikimurray_: | @UC_SID It was like ESPN had the speech on continuous loop. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:56 pm | MattLaCasse: | @jrdischinger Rehearsed and robotic = no one feels sympathy OR believes him. It was an #epicfail#SportsPRChat |
| 9:57 pm | tomokeefe1: | @katiebailey You thought that was genuine? It seemed robotic… like a publicist told them to do it #SportsPRChat |
| 9:57 pm | UC_SID: | @_nikimurray_ I KNOW. my wife was surprised when I didn’t have ESPN on this wknd. when I told her why, she understood #SportsPRChat |
| 9:57 pm | jonnew: | Q5: He was way overcoached and forced the dramatic pauses and looks straight into the camera. #sportsprchat |
| 9:57 pm | NearJay: | Q5 Dry and emotionless. To me he was placating, very putrid attempt at reprieve. He doesn’t get it. No, not really. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:58 pm | elenaellie: | @jonnew I think the apology coach now needs a press conf to apologize #sportsprchat |
| 9:58 pm | michaelmolinar: | q5 What I found funny was ESPN’s bottom line ticker during the press conference:http://img111.yfrog.com/i/8tdh.jpg #sportsprchat |
| 9:59 pm | Sean_Flynn: | Q5- Of course it was robotic. Tiger never wanted to apologize & a publicist wrote the speech. What wld truly make this better? #sportsprchat |
| 9:59 pm | mikeschaffer: | Q6 – With Cena/Batista, Edge/Jericho and HBK/Undertaker 2, how stoked are you for Wrestlemania? |
| 9:59 pm | BGleas: | Q5: In the words of Adrian “Win Rocky Win”. If Tiger comes back and wins, this mostly all goes away #sportsprchat |
| 9:59 pm | jonnew: | @elenaellie Brutal |
| 9:59 pm | SportsandaLatte: | serious overkill! RT @_nikimurray_ @UC_SID It was like ESPN had the speech on continuous loop. #SportsPRChat #sportsPRchat |
| 10:00 pm | UC_SID: | @mikeschaffer mmm … not … next question please #SportsPRChat #wwe |
| 10:00 pm | ThatGuyHugs: | @mikeschaffer haha, great question. #sportsprchat |
| 10:00 pm | mikeschaffer: | RT @elenaellie: @jonnew I think the apology coach now needs a press conf to apologize #sportsprchat |
| 10:00 pm | Sean_Flynn: | Q5- ? for you PR people–What would have satisfied you last week with Tiger? I bet nothing. It was lose-lose, but necessary. #sportsprchat |
| 10:00 pm | knallen: | I stopped watching wrestling when it went from the WWF to the WWE. ha. but go crazy you wrestling nuts! #sportsprchat |
| 10:00 pm | Sean_Flynn: | RT @UC_SID: @mikeschaffer mmm … not … next question please #SportsPRChat #wwe |
| 10:00 pm | jonnew: | Q6: Where does HHH fit into the plans? Was surprised by Cena/Bautista. #wwe #sportsprchat |
| 10:00 pm | JoshHull: | Q5 #sportsprchat Tiger’s statement/apology rang true to me. IMHO I don’t think repairing relationships w sponsors was his goal. . . yet |
| 10:00 pm | BGleas: | RT @Sean_Flynn: Q5- ? for you PR people–What would have satisfied you last week with Tiger? I bet nothing. It was lose-lose, but necessary. #sportsprchat |
| 10:00 pm | _nikimurray_: | @UC_SID It always kills me when celebrities want the media to leave them alone. This is what you signed up for. #SportsPRChat |
| 10:01 pm | MattLaCasse: | @jrdischinger Of course it’s hard. But if you are going to apologize, at least come off as sincere. #sportsprchat |
| 10:01 pm | mikeschaffer: | @jonnew i hear a match w sheamus #sportsprchat |
| 10:02 pm | jonnew: | @mikeschaffer Makes sense. They need to speed up that storyline then. #sportsprchat |
| 10:02 pm | FFasoyinu: | Extremely stoked…would be my answer if I followed wrestling.#sportsprchat. |
| 10:02 pm | sherylgudelsky: | @Sean_Flynn agreed, his hole was too deep #sportsprchat |
| 10:02 pm | BGleas: | @6 – Who is Ricky “The Dragon” Steamboat going against? Unless he, Hulk and JYD are involved, I don’t care |
| 10:02 pm | NearJay: | RT @MattLaCasse: @jrdischinger Of course it’s hard. But if you are going to apologize, at least come off as sincere. #sportsprchat |
| 10:02 pm | elenaellie: | Q6: will be stoked about wwe when Brutus the Barber Beefcake comes out of retirement #sportsprchat |
| 10:03 pm | julia_flyer: | @Sean_Flynn Exactly why it did more harm than good. He should have just let it fade into memory. Insincerity is bad PR. #sportsprchat |
| 10:03 pm | mikeschaffer: | @BGleas Dragon was HUGE at mania last year! #sportsprchat |
| 10:04 pm | jonnew: | @BGleas You need to watch the other promotion on SPIKE then. They’re all there. |
| 10:04 pm | BGleas: | @julia_flyer I think @Sean_Flynn ‘s point was that no matter what he did, we’d all be on here criticizing it somehow #sportsprchat |
| 10:04 pm | mikeschaffer: | RT @elenaellie: Q6: will be stoked about wwe when Brutus the Barber Beefcake comes out of retirement #sportsprchat |
| 10:04 pm | ngoss: | Q6 – Legion of Doom vs. Bush Wackers? #sportsprchat |
| 10:05 pm | UC_SID: | @_nikimurray_ oh I agree. if you don’t want to be in the spotlight, get off the stage #SportsPRChat |
| 10:05 pm | BGleas: | @jonnew Good tip! I’m down with the old school wrestling. #sportsprchat |
| 10:05 pm | BGleas: | @mikeschaffer Wait, is he really back? #sportsprchat |
| 10:05 pm | mikeschaffer: | Thanks for another amazing #SportsPRChat! Give teen ironman sensation @hunterlussi a follow -transcript coming soon! |
| 10:06 pm | jonnew: | @BGleas Hulk, Flair and all their old WCW buddies have re-formed the band. #sportsprchat |
| 10:06 pm | KarlynLothery: | RT @Ath4Hope: Q4 If we are going to hold athletes to a high code of coduct, shouldnt this apply to sports media professionals as well? #sportsprchat |
| 10:06 pm | BGleas: | Thanks again @mikeschaffer Great work! #sportsprchat |
| 10:07 pm | julia_flyer: | Agreed. |
| 10:08 pm | knallen: | @mikeschaffer Thank you! #sportsprchat |
| 10:08 pm | UC_SID: | Great job @mikeschaffer as always #SportsPRChat |
| 10:08 pm | michaelmolinar: | @mikeschaffer thanks! #sportsprchat |
| 10:09 pm | jrdischinger: | @mikeschaffer Very interesting thing you have going! Look forward to more. #SportsPRChat |
| 10:09 pm | tomokeefe1: | @mikeschaffer Well done, as always! #SportsPRChat |
| 10:09 pm | Ath4Hope: | Thanks! @mikeschaffer #sportsprchat |
| 10:10 pm | UC_SID: | Hey #sportsPRchat, if you are in the Sports Info biz-or interested in it- going to hold a #SIDchat next Wed. at 2 pm ET/11 am PT |
| 10:10 pm | SportsandaLatte: | Thanks for another great #sportsPRchat @mikeschaffer ! |
| 10:11 pm | AXP112: | RT @UC_SID: Hey #sportsPRchat, if you are in the Sports Info biz-or interested in it- going to hold a #SIDchat next Wed. at 2 pm ET/11 am PT |
| 10:12 pm | mikeschaffer: | RT @UC_SID: Hey #sportsPRchat, if you are in the Sports Info biz-or interested in it- going to hold a #SIDchat next Wed. at 2 pm ET/11 am PT |
| 10:13 pm | katiebailey: | @tomokeefe1 I should clarify. MORE genuine. But overall, broad scheme of scheme of things? Not so much. #sportsPRchat |
| 10:13 pm | david_schwab: | Totally different context re: Apolo Ohno = unique look. DWTS champ. Crazy sport. Most decorated Oly ever (re: @AXP112 comment) #sportsprchat |
| 10:13 pm | LindsayNK9: | Awesome #sportsprchat |
| 10:13 pm | BGleas: | RT @UC_SID: Hey #sportsPRchat, if you are in the Sports Info biz-or interested in it- going to hold a #SIDchat next Wed. at 2 pm ET/11 am PT |
| 10:14 pm | katiebailey: | RT @UC_SID Hey #sportsPRchat, if you are in the Sports Info biz-or interested in it- going to hold a #SIDchat next Wed. at 2 pm ET/11 am PT |
| 10:15 pm | tomokeefe1: | @katiebailey Agreed. I know he’s a golfer, but I’ve seen live interviews with him, and he could have done much better #sportsPRchat |
| 10:16 pm | stearnscd: | Just returned from an afternoon of meetings and looks like I missed a good #sportsprchat. Hopefully able to catch next week! |
| 10:18 pm | katiebailey: | Enjoyed #sportsPRchat today. Thanks @mikeschaffer. Is this new time slot permanent? My hungry lunchtime stomach agrees with it. |
| 10:18 pm | UC_SID: | @katiebailey Thanks for the RT #sportsPRchat #SIDchat |
| 10:18 pm | UC_SID: | Thanks for the RTs @AXP112 @mikeschaffer @BGleas #sportsPRchat #SIDchat |
| 10:26 pm | NearJay: | Thanks for a great #sportsPRchat @mikeschaffer |
| 10:36 pm | stephanieeee6: | Q4 If we are going to hold athletes to a high code of coduct, shouldnt this apply to sports media professionals as well? #sportsprchat |
| 11:28 pm | MVNUSID: | RT @UC_SID: Hey #sportsPRchat, if you are in the Sports Info biz-or interested in it- going to hold a #SIDchat next Wed. at 2 pm ET/11 am PT |
December 12th, 2009 — Pop Culture, PR, Sports
I went shopping this morning, hoping to beat the crowds to the supermarket. After three weeks away, our pantry was barren and our fridge was empty, so it was a much-needed trip.
My grocery store usually has Powerade Zero for a decent price, so I stopped by to pick up a few bottles.
I grabbed their two new flavors (orange and lemon-lime!) and scanned the rest of the aisle and saw a huge tag shouting “DISCONTINUED ITEM” with a ridiculously low price.
What could this item be that was once worthy of a prominent placement in a major-chain grocery store that has now ceased production?
Tiger Woods-sponsored Gatorade flavors.
Yes, just days after the company dropped their sponsorship, the bottles were practically being given away.
Of course, there is the moral dilemma: I like the product and it is insanely cheap…but…it’s got the name of a confessed adulterer on it. (Disclosure – my company has worked with Tiger Woods’ Foundation and handled the PR for events Tiger has appeared in.)
I held the bottle in my hand for a moment and thought, “Hot damn, that’s a good price!” and put it in my basket and moved on to find sweet potatoes, hummus and Kashi cereal. (Note – those are items I consume separately, not ingredients in a dish!)
As consumers, we like to say we don’t put a lot of stock into pitchmen and sponsorships, but they really do impact our purchasing habits. Vitamin Water, for example, seemed like a fairly “granola” concept, a drink filled with vitamins and minerals, perfect for us liberal hippies, right? Well, once 50 Cent had his name on one of their flavors, the entire line gained a new audience.
So, in the reverse, if Tiger Woods has become Public Enemy #1, would his name on a bottle of Gatorade deter you from buying it? Obviously the Powers-That-Be at Gatorade HQ thought so and severed a long-term agreement with the global golf icon.
Tiger’s image over the past decade has been one of excellence, dignity, class, with an appreciation for the finer things in life, like nice cars and watches. Buick became a “cool” line because Tiger endorsed them.
It seemed like the endorsements came to define Woods, who quietly dominated his sport.
But for now, at least, it seems that companies don’t want to be associated with him, as he tries to keep his family business out of the spotlight.
And, for now, his Gatorade flavors are off the shelves of grocery stores.
What do you think? Was Gatorade’s action knee-jerk or a good long-term move?