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June 29th, 2011 — #SportsPRChat
Top 5 Real Life Sports “Heel Turns”
July 11th, 2010 — Pop Culture, PR, Sports, Wrestling
Last week, when NBA superstar LeBron James decided to bolt Cleveland to join the Miami Heat, I, along with many others, compared it to Hulk Hogan turning evil and joining the NWO.
That got me thinking about other notable “heel turns.” In wrestling terms, when a good guy goes EVIL, it’s called a heel turn, referencing inside labels for good guys (babyfaces) and bad guys (heels).
So what constitutes a turn?
Well, it’s usually easy to pinpoint the moment where the person does something heinous or a revelation about them emerges which drastically changes our perception of them. Someone that has always been controversial or had wide-spread negative perceptions surrounding them doesn’t qualify. Basically, lifelong jerks don’t count. A heel turn is a fall from grace that is difficult to ever recover from.
With that said, I present to you the Top 5 Real Life Sports “Heel Turns:”
Honorable Mentions: Jack McDowell flipping the bird to Yankee Stadium, Lance Armstrong splitting with Sheryl Crow during her cancer treatment (I mean…REALLY?????), Roberto Alomar spitting on umpire John Hirschbeck
#5 – Michael Vick Bankrolls Dogfighting Operation: Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick
was arguable the most electrifying player in the NFL. His unorthodox style kept fans on the edge of their seat – would he throw a touchdown or get sacked for a 30-yard loss? Both outcomes happened quite often, but everyone wanted to watch. He played the position like millions of video game players manipulated their controllers.
He was the face of his franchise, one of the most marketable players in the league. Under his direction, the Falcons became a premiere team in the league. Their signature win came on January 1, 2003, when Vick and the birds upset heavily-favored Green Bay at storied Lambeau Field in the playoffs, the Packers’ first home playoff loss ever.
While his demeanor soured slowly as the team struggled, the summer of 2007 was when he went full-blown heel. That summer, evidence of Vick bankrolling a large dogfighting ring, with harsh imagery from rape stands to drownings to hangings, blew up…and so did his career. Vick went to jail, and while he has returned to the league, his reputation is irreparable. (Note: I previously discussed Michael Vick here)
#4 – Rafael Palmeiro Wags His Guilty Finger: There are several ways to get into a sport’s
Hall of Fame. Be GREAT…or be REALLY GOOD for a long time. Baseball star Rafael Palmeiro, sitting on nearly two decades of REALLY GOOD, was finishing out his career, with a ticket seemingly punched for Cooperstown, NY.
There are, however, ways to block your own induction to the Hall of Fame. Embarrassing yourself and your sport in front of Congress is pretty decent way to do just that.
Testifying under oath on March 17, 2005, Palmeiro swore to Congress he had never done steroids, famously wagging his finger at them, almost shaming them for even considering that fact.
That August, Palmeiro tested positive for the steroid stanozolol. He was immediately suspended for 10 games. While he was reinstated after serving his time, the one-time champion of goodness became a poster boy for all that was wrong with the game at the time. The Congressional nature of his case brings his lying to a higher level. Now, the only way he will see the Hall of Fame is with a ticket…if they even let him in.
#3 – Ray Lewis, Murder and Redemption: By January 31, 2000, Baltimore Ravens linebacker
Ray Lewis was entering the prime of his career. He had already been named to two All Pro Team, led the NFL in tackles and was seen as an emerging leader of the premier defense in the league. His popularity became national, as his hard, aggressive style of play endeared himself to all gridiron fans.
However, that night, everything changed. While the exact events remain a mystery, here is what we know: Lewis was involved in a back alley fight, which led to the stabbing deaths of two men on the opposite side. Lewis was charged with murder, and the image of a top athlete sitting in his trial every day wearing prison jumpsuits was prevalent.
At the end of the day, Lewis agreed to take a lesser charge to testify against his co-defendants. The NFL fined Lewis $250,000 and his image was in tatters.
I included Lewis in this list because of how shocking the image was: one of the most popular players in his league charged with murder.
However, also to be mentioned is how Lewis found redemption. A decade of distance from the murder, Lewis has shown remorse for his involvement, dedicated himself to community service and mentoring young players in the league, trying to make sure nobody makes the mistakes he did.
He has become a “spiritual leader” of the Ravens and the NFL – a weathered warrior who has seen the worst and emerged from it a better man. So while his heel turn was shocking, his return to good graces has been inspiring.
#2 – Tiger Woods Likes The Ladies: LeBron James wants to be a global brand…Tiger Woods
IS. He dominated with PGA Tour for more than a decade, taking the game to greater popularity than ever before. A man bred to win at golf, Tiger’s focus, fitness and precision were legendary. Part marketing play and part psychological ploy, if you saw Tiger wearing red on Sunday, you knew he was winning.
He endorsed top-flight brands and products and it all made sense – he was top-flight. He was a family man, living the perfect life.
On November 25, 2009, a report came out of Tiger being in a single-car crash late at night in his gated community in Florida. Which led to a report of a mistress. Which opened the floodgates.
Women upon women upon women came forward claiming to have had sexual relationships with Tiger Woods. And he didn’t deny it! Because there wasn’t anything to deny.
And it was over. His run at the top of the sport – as it’s best player, biggest star and most popular competitor, the scads of rich endorsement contracts, the life people dream of…all of it, gone. Tiger walked away from golf for several months, a tense time of supposed rehab for his addiction and trying to repair his marriage.
While he has returned to golf and kept some sponsorships, he is no longer THE golfer. His life is in shambles and the man who cherished his privacy is forced to see the world watch it.
#1 – OJ Simpson and The White Bronco: Hall of Famer football player and successful actor
and commentator OJ Simpson did it right. After an illustrious playing career, he successfully moved on to other arenas. He was not a national treasure (like, say, Mike Ditka or Betty White), but he was respected and recognized everywhere.
His ex-wife, Nicole Brown, and her friend Ron Goldman, were found dead at their home on June 12, 1994. Five days later, Simpson, the prime suspect, was involved an in infamous low-speed car chase. Police chased a white Bronco SUV for hours around Los Angeles. The footage interrupted the NBA championship and began a national obsession with the case.
Finally apprehended, Simpson’s trial gripped people coast-to-coast. The former Heisman Trophy winner’s court battle touched a nerve with people, headlines, ratings, dinner-table discussions and workplace arguments.
The announcement of the verdict sits as one of those “you always remember where you were” moments, along with 9/11 and JFK’s assassination. And despite his acquittal, Simpson remains a villain in pop culture…and the legal system. He is currently serving nearly a decade of jail time on numerous felonies, including armed robbery and kidnapping.
What other real life sports heel turns would you include?
#SportsPRChat Transcript – Feb. 25, 2010
February 25th, 2010 — #SportsPRChat
| 6:37 pm | mikeschaffer: | Reminder #SportsPRChat at 4pmEST today! **special time** |
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| 6:45 pm | han_ma: | Ugh… I have class but I’ll try to swing by! RT @mikeschaffer: Reminder #SportsPRChat at 4pmEST today! **special time** |
| 7:10 pm | mikeschaffer: | What’s on your mind today? Accepting #SportsPRChat topic ideas! michaelgschaffer at gmail |
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| 7:51 pm | NearJay: | RT @mikeschaffer: What’s on your mind today? Accepting #SportsPRChat topic ideas! michaelgschaffer at gmail |
| 8:19 pm | ithakid: | @mikeschaffer Sorry, can’t make #SportsPRChat today! Big announcement coming on Monday, though! I might need your insight about it. |
| 8:36 pm | mikeschaffer: | 30 mins until #SportsPRChat – Talking Olympics, UFC, Tiger…and more! |
| 8:53 pm | tressalynne: | Top Media Trainers Dissect Tiger’s Talk: Embarrassing PR Failure or First Step Back?http://bit.ly/a7xwS4 #SportsPRChat #pr |
| 8:54 pm | Seanbiscuit9: | RT @mikeschaffer: 30 mins until #SportsPRChat – Talking Olympics, UFC, Tiger…and more! |
| 8:57 pm | AXP112: | Hoping to make some great new networking connections today during #sportsprchat |
| 9:00 pm | mikeschaffer: | Welcome to a slightly rescheduled #SportsPRChat! Sorry for the switch – my laptop needs CPR! Q1 coming in 1 min – say hi! |
| 9:01 pm | AXP112: | Hi @mikeschaffer I’m joining #sportsprchat for the first time today…hoping to make some great networking connections while chatting. |
| 9:01 pm | tshepard: | Sad I won’t be able to participate in #SportsPRChat today. Have lots of @LansingChamber directories to deliver! |
| 9:02 pm | mikeschaffer: | Q1 – What do you think of NBC’s coverage of the Olympics so far? (purposely broad) #SportsPRChat |
| 9:02 pm | MattLaCasse: | Hi everyone! PR Free Agent Matt LaCasse #sportsprchat |
| 9:03 pm | eglomb: | hi guys! #SportsPRChat |
| 9:03 pm | MattLaCasse: | Q1 I’ve only watched curling and hockey. Both have been live, so I have no issues. Tape delaying stuff is stupid though #SportsPRChat |
| 9:04 pm | Seanbiscuit9: | Hey #SportsPRChat, Former Michigander, Current Baltimorean, PR professional here. |
| 9:04 pm | bitty_boop: | Q1 I haven’t really been watching the Olympics. I feel like there’s nothing too exciting to expect #sportsprchat |
| 9:04 pm | Jfavreau: | @mikeschaffer Q1 I think it is awful. Hockey nut that I am they cut into and out of games. Never started on time. #sportsprchat |
| 9:04 pm | ngoss: | Q1 -Little dissapointed. Thought we’d see more “live” events in prime time. Not entirely NBC fault though. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:04 pm | juleszunich: | My first #sportsprchat / Jules Zunich / tons of golf & health & fitness pr experience |
| 9:05 pm | Seanbiscuit9: | Q1 Missed some events I wanted to see due to delay or it being on another NBC network. Missed Curling and Hockey #SportsPRChat |
| 9:05 pm | jonlustig: | Q1 I’ve said this before, you can’t cover sports people don’t care about straight. All the story elements makes sense to me. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:06 pm | jonlustig: | Q1 In terms of stuff like dumping hockey to MSNBC, PR wise, it’s been awful. But NBC doesn’t care. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:06 pm | sherylgudelsky: | Dont get MSNBC, mad to miss USA/CAN.They had lots of viewers, & it would have been in their best interest to put game on NBC #sportsprchat |
| 9:06 pm | christinet6d: | Q1: Terrible. So bad. That could also be due to the fact that I can’t stand Bob Costas. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:06 pm | juleszunich: | Q1 #sportsprchat: NBC has done a great job…better than any I remember |
| 9:07 pm | mikeschaffer: | RT @jrdischinger @mikeschaffer Pretty sad. As 26 yearold male they are way too focused on subjective vs. objective sports. #sportsprchat |
| 9:07 pm | Seanbiscuit9: | Q1 Will give them this credit, really enjoyed seeing all the stuff about Canada. Really want to head to Vancouver someday. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:07 pm | AXP112: | Q1 I’ve been more disappointed with the ESPN alerts coming out moments before “live” events end. Such as the women’s bobsled #sportsprchat |
| 9:07 pm | MVNUSID: | @TimCary I encourage you to check out #sportsprchat that’s going on right now. You’ll make some new connections. |
| 9:07 pm | eglomb: | Q1: other than the fact that I don’t get msnbc and I haven’t seen a single hockey game or curling it’s okay #SportsPRChat |
| 9:08 pm | elenaellie: | Q1 Stephen Colbert is rockin’ it, i think he should get some credit for NBC ratings…the colbert bump #sportsPRchat |
| 9:08 pm | jonlustig: | Q1 NBC put out demo numbers that say 56% of their Olympics audience is women. That’s why their coverage is done the way it is. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:08 pm | mikeschaffer: | After the luge death, seems they are featuring that track more than usual #sportsprchat |
| 9:08 pm | jeffespo: | @mikeschaffer Pretty weak keeping hockey on MSNBC #sportsprchat |
| 9:08 pm | MattLaCasse: | @mikeschaffer @jrdischinger Agreed. However, do subjective sports draw more viewers? Reason ice skating is in prime time. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:08 pm | Seanbiscuit9: | Q1 Don’t understand the “turn away from the screen if you don’t want to see who won the medal of the event that’s on later.” #SportsPRChat |
| 9:09 pm | ngoss: | @AXP112 Don’t forget the scrolling bottom line on all their stations #sportsprchat |
| 9:09 pm | MVNUSID: | @elenaellie I agree that Stephen Colbert has been a great addition to the NBC Olympic coverage. #sportsPRchat. |
| 9:09 pm | SportsandaLatte: | @mikeschaffer Q1: I think coverage is cool so far…of course would be better w/HD #sportsPRchat |
| 9:11 pm | mikeschaffer: | Tape delays have helped and hurt my enjoyment of the games #sportsprchat |
| 9:11 pm | AXP112: | @ngoss ESPN alerts sent to my phone. Got one about 3 minutes before the last run (USA currently 2nd) saying we win bronze #sportsprchat |
| 9:11 pm | mikeschaffer: | RT @jeffespo: @mikeschaffer Pretty weak keeping hockey on MSNBC #sportsprchat |
| 9:11 pm | _nikimurray_: | Q1: Besides hockey, I think I’ve only watched highlights on ESPN #SportsPRChat |
| 9:11 pm | han_ma: | RT @Jason_Pollock: Dear NBC, thank you for playing soap opera’s during the winter olympics. NOT!!!!!!!:) #sportsprchat |
| 9:12 pm | TimCary: | Q1 Wish NBC showed more live events, but they’ve always operated same way. Differnce is info comes faster from other sources. #sportsprchat |
| 9:12 pm | mikeschaffer: | @SportsandaLatte you’d be shocked how bad athletes look in HD after a long competition! #sportsprchat |
| 9:12 pm | UC_SID: | Q1 I hate NBC’s coverage. hops around too much. Hate they stick ads online during hockey gms when there are none on TV #SportsPRChat |
| 9:12 pm | MVNUSID: | @mikeschaffer At least the delays are not as bad as when the Olympis were on the other side of the globe. #sportsPRchat |
| 9:12 pm | BrityVP: | @mikeschaffer RT Q2 but don’t you think it’s interesting after the bobsled accident, athletes are pulling our of competition #sportsprchat |
| 9:12 pm | UC_SID: | Colbert has been awesome. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:12 pm | mikeschaffer: | RT @ErichHeber NBC’s coverage has been an embarrassment. People want to see live coverage of Olympics and are not getting it. #sportsprchat |
| 9:13 pm | SportsandaLatte: | Q1; If NBC had aired USA/CAN game it would have been on tape delay…then CT and PT viewers would have been more upset #sportsPRchat |
| 9:13 pm | michaelmolinar: | @mikeschaffer is it the tape delay or all the online instant alerts like Twitter/ESPN that ruin it? #sportsprchat |
| 9:13 pm | mikeschaffer: | Q2 coming in 2 mins! #sportsprchat |
| 9:14 pm | mikeschaffer: | @michaelmolinar good point. email alerts, mostly #sportsprchat |
| 9:14 pm | _nikimurray_: | Q1: With todays tech, its hard to wait to watch events that can’t be shown live. Spoilers everywhere #SportsPRChat |
| 9:14 pm | Jfavreau: | RT @ErichHeber NBC’s coverage has been an embarrassment. People want to see live coverage of Olympics and are not getting it. #sportsprchat |
| 9:14 pm | julia_flyer: | Q1. If NBC wants to do delayed coverage, they should have gotten agreement from other outlets, so results wouldn’t be leaked. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:14 pm | ngoss: | True! RT @michaelmolinar: @mikeschaffer is it the tape delay or all the online instant alerts like Twitter/ESPN that ruin it? #sportsprchat |
| 9:15 pm | UC_SID: | @michaelmolinar tape delay for me. I want to know the result as it happens #sportsprchat |
| 9:15 pm | NearJay: | RT @mikeschaffer: Q1 – What do you think of NBC’s coverage of the Olympics so far? (purposely broad) #SportsPRChat |
| 9:15 pm | AXP112: | Q1 I mostly feel like the tape delay isn’t necessary because its only a 3 hour delay in time. Should have more live. #sportsprchat |
| 9:15 pm | JoshHull: | @mikeschaffer #sportsprchat I think the free HD feed over the air looks incredible. I watch on NBC 4 in DC. Flatscreen with antenna |
| 9:15 pm | UC_SID: | @michaelmolinar if I know it’s happening NOW, I want to know the result NOW #sportsprchat |
| 9:15 pm | mikeschaffer: | Q2 – via @amybp – Does the Mancuso/Vonn skiing rivalry hurt sponsorship opportunities? (Top 2 skiiers don’t get along) #SportsPRChat |
| 9:15 pm | NearJay: | RT @julia_flyer: Q1. If NBC wants to do delayed coverage, they should have gotten agreement from other outlets, so results wouldn’t be leaked. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:15 pm | MVNUSID: | RT @AXP112: Q1 I mostly feel like the tape delay isn’t necessary because its only a 3 hour delay in time. Should have more live. #sportsprchat |
| 9:15 pm | Jfavreau: | Q1 Another thing which ticks me off living in a border city is this is the 1st year we can’t have the Canadian option. #Sportsprchat |
| 9:16 pm | UC_SID: | RT @julia_flyer: Q1. NBC should have gotten agreement from other outlets, so results wouldn’t be leaked. #SportsPRChat [not gonna happen] |
| 9:17 pm | eglomb: | Q1: I’m irritated by the fact that it’s nearly impossible without paying to watch any highlights on the vancouver2010 site #SportsPRChat |
| 9:17 pm | NearJay: | RT @mikeschaffer: Q2 – via @amybp – Does the Mancuso/Vonn skiing rivalry hurt sponsorship opportunities? (Top 2 skiiers don’t get along) #SportsPRChat |
| 9:17 pm | AXP112: | Q2 I don’t think it hurts them individually, esp. after she said it wasn’t Vonn’s fault. Just odd “officiating” by IOC. #sportsprchat |
| 9:17 pm | UC_SID: | yes & no … controversy draws attn. so that could help. but if they aren’t willing to work together, then no use trying #sportsprchat |
| 9:17 pm | MVNUSID: | @mikeschaffer Q2 Not sure about hurting the sponsorship opps, but man did the SI cover jinx get them or what?! #sportsPRchat |
| 9:18 pm | Ath4Hope: | Q2 Dont rivalries usually help? plz explain the question #sportsprchat |
| 9:18 pm | julia_flyer: | Q2. They should either put it aside in the public eye, or play it up, ala college rivalries. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:18 pm | juleszunich: | Q2 – via @amybp – Does the Mancuso/Vonn skiing rivalry hurt sponsorship opportunities? #SportsPRchat ~ no in this climate it probably helps |
| 9:18 pm | NearJay: | Q2 when has frienemy situations not helped the bottom line? #sportsprchat Sadly it may help women in sports get better coverage. |
| 9:19 pm | MattLaCasse: | Q2 It shouldn’t. Tiger and Phil not being best friends didn’t hurt either’s ability to market themselves (pre-scandal). #SportsPRChat |
| 9:19 pm | FFasoyinu: | Q2: My prediction is sponsors will get them to unite in a joint venture to raise profile of alpine success at these olympics. #SportsPRchat |
| 9:19 pm | _nikimurray_: | Q2: I think the fact that it’s skiing and not many people pay attention hurts sponsorship opportunities #SportsPRChat |
| 9:19 pm | elenaellie: | Is there crying in Olympics? can we talk about the crying – hurts or helps? #sportsprchat |
| 9:19 pm | mikeschaffer: | RT @david_schwab 1)Rivalries add endorsements/tv coverage not detract 2)Skiing $ issue=lack of TV/interest during non-Oly yrs #sportsprchat |
| 9:20 pm | katiebailey: | Q2 – I think the Mancuso/Vonn rivalry may help Mancuso — seemed like all Vonn before. Now she’s actually in conversation. #sportsPRchat |
| 9:20 pm | JoshHull: | #SportsPRChat or should I say NBC 4.1. . . Universal Sports on 4.3 is handy but Standard Def (SD). |
| 9:20 pm | mikeschaffer: | @Ath4Hope If Mancuso is perceived has “bad guy,” does that hurt her earning potential, despite being top skiier? #sportsprchat |
| 9:20 pm | julia_flyer: | #SportsPRChat @jobu415 @jtannenwald @UC_SID Then NBC should provide live coverage. |
| 9:21 pm | _nikimurray_: | @David_Schwab Agreed #SportsPRChat |
| 9:21 pm | UC_SID: | @elenaellie crying helps NBC tell ‘its’ stories #sportsprchat |
| 9:21 pm | MattLaCasse: | Q2 Does it really even matter? I mean, when’s the last time you saw an oly. athlete other than Phelps outside the Oly. window? #Sportsprchat |
| 9:21 pm | AXP112: | To go against @david_schwab‘s post, What about @ApoloOhno? He seems to have done well in a “non-popular” sport in no-oly. year #sportsprchat |
| 9:22 pm | mikeschaffer: | RT @jrdischinger Not in PR, would say no. As long as they’re not bickering directly. Back door takes away, not unsponsorable #sportsprchat |
| 9:22 pm | UC_SID: | @julia_flyer I SO AGREE IT SHOULD … we live in 21st century. NBC should too #SportsPRChat |
| 9:22 pm | mikeschaffer: | Remember to use the #SportsPRChat hashtag! |
| 9:23 pm | mikeschaffer: | Today’s #SportsPRChat is brought to you by teenage ironman @hunterlussi! |
| 9:23 pm | jonlustig: | Q2 Rivalries usually end up helping to make both better known. Vonn is still perceived as top skier though. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:23 pm | eglomb: | Q2: well after Vonn crashing last night and Mancuso having to do a re-do I don’t see them getting along any better #SportsPRChat |
| 9:23 pm | Ath4Hope: | @mikeschaffer OK, we think some companies might like bad guy image. could work 4 her. Depends if a character like mcenroe #sportsprchat |
| 9:23 pm | NearJay: | RT @mikeschaffer: Remember to use the #SportsPRChat hashtag! |
| 9:23 pm | mikeschaffer: | Q3 coming in 2 mins! (leaving Olympics, if that’s OK) #sportsprchat |
| 9:24 pm | SportsandaLatte: | Agreed! RT @julia_flyer: Q2. They should either put it aside in the public eye, or play it up, ala college rivalries. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:24 pm | UC_SID: | @mikeschaffer it very much OK #sportsprchat |
| 9:24 pm | NearJay: | RT @katiebailey: Q2 – I think the Mancuso/Vonn rivalry may help Mancuso — seemed like all Vonn before. Now she’s actually in conversation. #sportsPRchat |
| 9:25 pm | katiebailey: | Semi-related, who is justified to be angrier: Sven Kramer (NED speedskater) or Julia Mancuso? #sportsPRchat |
| 9:25 pm | Ath4Hope: | @mikeschaffer why thank you, or as mancuso would say waaaaaaaaaaaaa #sportsprchat |
| 9:25 pm | Jfavreau: | I think the rivalry should help. I haven’t paid much att. to the skiing. #sportsprchat |
| 9:25 pm | LindsayNK9: | sneaking in to check out the #sportsprchat ! |
| 9:25 pm | SportsandaLatte: | Q2: I think the rivalry could be an opportunity for sponsors! If it’s a healthy, competitive one #sportsPRchat |
| 9:26 pm | UC_SID: | @katiebailey Kramer. He had the gold in hand on to have it stripped away #sportsPRchat |
| 9:26 pm | AXP112: | @katiebailey No doubt its Sven! #sportsprchat |
| 9:27 pm | mikeschaffer: | Q3 – via @Worob Good PR move? “UFC Forces Fighter to Apologize for ‘Death’ Comments”http://bit.ly/6oah44 #SportsPRChat |
| 9:27 pm | julia_flyer: | @AXP112 Again with the cycle. He was smart and stayed in the public eye is what I’m trying to say, I guess. #sportsprchat |
| 9:27 pm | sherylgudelsky: | the rivalry has given Mancuso a better opportunity for deals, she was way under the radar before, esp compared to vonn #sportsprchat |
| 9:28 pm | NearJay: | RT @mikeschaffer: Q3 – via @Worob Good PR move? “UFC Forces Fighter to Apologize for ‘Death’ Comments” http://bit.ly/6oah44 #SportsPRChat |
| 9:29 pm | amybp: | RT @mikeschaffer:Q2 – via @amybp does Mancuso/Vonn rivalry hurt sponsorship opp? #SportsPRChat~ Think Mancuso’s comments made it hard 4 her |
| 9:29 pm | katiebailey: | @UC_SID To play devil’s advocate, Kramer could have ignored his coach & won gold. Who has time to think in that situation tho? #sportsPRchat |
| 9:29 pm | jonlustig: | Q3 Good move. UFC wants to be taken seriously, won’t be if seen to tolerate stuff like that. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:29 pm | _nikimurray_: | Q3: It keeps the story going – we’re still talking about it (UFC apology) #SportsPRChat |
| 9:29 pm | FFasoyinu: | It’s Dana’s show. He keeps everyone in line. Good move to get an apology issued. #sportsprchat. |
| 9:30 pm | UC_SID: | Q3 IDK … seems like UFC is going PC on itself which seems to be counterproductive #sportsPRchat |
| 9:30 pm | Sean_Flynn: | Q3 Bad PR ; good PC move. Why mask a character? That’s what fans want to hear/see. Like bands being drunk at Awards shows. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:30 pm | UC_SID: | @katiebailey that is true, but like you said, who has time to think in that situation. Plus, most Oly athletes listen to coach #sportsPRchat |
| 9:30 pm | julia_flyer: | Are they trying to come off as family friendly? RT @UC_SID: Q3 seems like UFC is going PC which seems to be counterproductive #sportsPRchat |
| 9:30 pm | ngoss: | Agreed… RT @jonlustig: Q3 Good move. UFC wants to be taken seriously, won’t be if seen to tolerate stuff like that. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:31 pm | katiebailey: | @UC_SID @michaelmolinar Devil’s advocate aside, I agree w you both. Felt awful for both of them. Glad both have other medals. #sportsPRchat |
| 9:31 pm | jrdischinger: | @mikeschaffer Death chat not needed in ANY sport nor part of ANY sport UFC,NFL,Bowling etc Death=serious Sports=entertainment #SportsPRChat |
| 9:31 pm | MattLaCasse: | Q3 @jonlustig Agreed. Point of UFC is to win a fight, not kill someone. Idea that fighters want to KILL each other is bad PR #SportsPRChat |
| 9:31 pm | UC_SID: | If UFC wants to be treat as a legit sport, good move. otherwise, they’re just another version of the WWE #sportsPRchat |
| 9:32 pm | elenaellie: | Q3 Fascinating analysis in the article – apologies certainly seem to be in vogue, hard not to respond to such viceral detail #sportsprchat |
| 9:32 pm | julia_flyer: | RT @AXP112: Q3 The right move. No matter how competitive you are, at the end of the day no one wants to see an opponent hurt. #sportsprchat |
| 9:32 pm | UC_SID: | @julia_flyer honestly, IDK if they’re trying to come off family friendly. not a sport I watch much of or want my son to watch #sportsPRchat |
| 9:33 pm | mitchderman: | @jeffespo Totally agree. Don’t know why NBC has not shown too many of the hockey games. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:33 pm | FFasoyinu: | @mikeschaffer thanks mike! he does a pretty good job as the face of the org. #sportsprchat |
| 9:33 pm | michaelmolinar: | I agree Mir’s comments went over the line but do we truly believe he really meant every word about wanting to kill Lesnar? #sportsprchat |
| 9:33 pm | julia_flyer: | @UC_SID Same here. But part of sports is respecting your opponents, and UFC is forcing fighters to do that. Kudos to them. #sportsPRchat |
| 9:34 pm | ErichHeber: | @mikeschaffer Disagree. Such a sport filled with violence/aggression comments like that will happen. Just let them fade away #SportsPRChat |
| 9:35 pm | LindsayNK9: | @AXP112 True! it’s all competition, but no one needs to die! #sportsprchat |
| 9:35 pm | UC_SID: | @julia_flyer I agree w/ you on that #sportsPRchat |
| 9:35 pm | mikeschaffer: | Q4 coming in 2 mins! #SportsPRChat |
| 9:35 pm | mikeschaffer: | RT @Ath4Hope: Q3 going out on a limb…death threats generally arent a good PR move #sportsprchat |
| 9:35 pm | katiebailey: | Q3 – I’ll have to catch up on the UFC story. Sadly (or not) I’ve had complete Olympics tunnel vision the past 2 weeks. #sportsPRchat |
| 9:37 pm | michaelmolinar: | Why all the apologies, etc. for Mir when Tyson got a free pass for all the things he said in his career? #sportsprchat |
| 9:37 pm | UC_SID: | @katiebailey no prob being fixated on the Olympics. only come around once every four years #sportsPRchat |
| 9:37 pm | _nikimurray_: | Q3: Does anyone think this falls under “no such thing as bad publicity? #SportsPRChat |
| 9:38 pm | elenaellie: | If the pres of UFC had not responded he would get bad press & now look at all the chatter – achieved 2 goals really effective #sportsprchat |
| 9:38 pm | BGleas: | A little late, hoping to stick my toe in with Q4 #sportsprchat |
| 9:38 pm | mikeschaffer: | Q4 – via @JoshHull – Was ESPN justified in suspending Tony Kornheiser re: comments about Hannah Storm? #sportsprchat |
| 9:39 pm | NearJay: | RT @mikeschaffer: Q4 – via @JoshHull – Was ESPN justified in suspending Tony Kornheiser re: comments about Hannah Storm? #sportsprchat |
| 9:40 pm | AXP112: | Q4 Living here in DC I listen to Kornheiser relatively frequently and have heard alot of the backlash, simple answer. NO #sportsprchat |
| 9:40 pm | knallen: | i think when he was warned previously about it and has made other comments about the way people dress it seems justified. #sportsprchat |
| 9:40 pm | UC_SID: | IDK … I’m kind of torn. He did cross a line, was a bit sexist but 2 weeks??? #sportsPRchat |
| 9:40 pm | AXP112: | Q4 after listening to the audio, I think the suspension didn’t come from the stormy comments, it was the “booming” weight. #sportsprchat |
| 9:41 pm | MattLaCasse: | Q4 Nope. He’s an opinion guy, that’s what he’s paid to do. Comments weren’t offensive. Off-color maybe…not offensive. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:41 pm | _nikimurray_: | Q4: It’s the Disney World dream of everyone getting along. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:41 pm | elenaellie: | Q4 seems to cross the colleague code of honor, and it wasnt necessary. he probly could get away with funny remark, this wsnt #sportsprchat |
| 9:41 pm | UC_SID: | I mean, Dana Jacobson didn’t get 2 wks when she dropped F-bombs and said F*$% TD Jesus at an ESPN function #sportsPRchat |
| 9:41 pm | julia_flyer: | Q4. They need to provide a united face. They are ONE company. #sportsprchat |
| 9:41 pm | sherylgudelsky: | Woman in sports like Storm must expect those things. But not from one of “your own” in the field #sportsPRchat |
| 9:41 pm | elenaellie: | @MattLaCasse hes paid to comment on womens clothing? i guess i never knew! #sportsprchat |
| 9:42 pm | michaelmolinar: | q4 yeah, probably should have been suspended, especially when he got in a 2-for-1 with the Berman comment as well. #sportsprchat |
| 9:42 pm | _nikimurray_: | Q4: Certainly the comments were inappropriate, but they’re calling more attention to it bc the reason for suspension leaked. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:42 pm | jonlustig: | Q4 NO. Even if you think someone should be suspended for comments re provocative clothing, his were lightweight. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:42 pm | BGleas: | Q4 – I’m going to refrain from the Boomer aspect. You’ll know why if you read my bio  #sportsprchat |
| 9:43 pm | jrdischinger: | @mikeschaffer Yes. Comments uncalled for, though opinionated. ESPN protecting its own. For 2 weeks? That is too long. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:43 pm | MattLaCasse: | @elenaellie He’s paid to comment on whatever he deems fit. Not saying comments were right, but to suspend him is over the top #sportsprchat |
| 9:43 pm | julia_flyer: | Q4. Upon further research. Good on ESPN. He was out of line, and shouldn’t talk about co-workers like that. Esp. on air. #sportsprchat |
| 9:43 pm | Sean_Flynn: | Q4 No, he is paid for his opinion. Don’t muzzle him for doing his job. Good or Bad. #sportsprchat |
| 9:44 pm | BGleas: | Q4 – Similar 2 the Clippers thing early this year, more light was brought on this by the suspension, not the actual comments #sportsprchat |
| 9:44 pm | Ath4Hope: | Q4 If we are going to hold athletes to a high code of coduct, shouldnt this apply to sports media professionals as well? #sportsprchat |
| 9:44 pm | UC_SID: | to be honest the suspension drew more spotlight on the situation. I didn’t know about his comments until he was suspended #sportsPRchat |
| 9:46 pm | UC_SID: | RT @katiebailey Sad but true RT @sherylgudelsky Woman n sports must expect those things. But not from 1 of “your own” #sportsPRchat [agreed] |
| 9:47 pm | elenaellie: | @karlynlothery you following sports chat? 15 more mins click #sportsprchat |
| 9:47 pm | MattLaCasse: | @elenaellie That’s just it…I’m not defending him! Talk radio has lots of hrs to fill and hosts make poor choice sometimes #sportsprchat |
| 9:47 pm | jonlustig: | Q4 Not the first time he has commented on her clothing choices, always says that she does good work on air when he does. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:48 pm | BGleas: | RT @MattLaCasse: @elenaellie That’s just it…I’m not defending him! Talk radio has lots of hrs to fill and hosts make poor choice sometimes #sportsprchat |
| 9:48 pm | Sean_Flynn: | @julia_flyer He is paid for commentary. His remarks were not appropriate, but his opinion is what is job is. #sportsprchat |
| 9:48 pm | UC_SID: | BTW, I love #sportsPRchat |
| 9:49 pm | BGleas: | @_nikimurray_ Seems on-air apology and personal call (which he did) to Storm would have kept this much smaller story #sportsprchat |
| 9:49 pm | Sean_Flynn: | Q4–Risking the sake of being attacked here but, sex reversal in the Kornheiser comments and it is a non issue. #sportsprchat |
| 9:49 pm | mikeschaffer: | Q5 – Had to get to this eventually – what did you think of Tiger’s TV show last week? #SportsPRChat |
| 9:49 pm | BGleas: | RT @UC_SID: BTW, I love #sportsPRchat |
| 9:49 pm | julia_flyer: | @Sean_Flynn True. Still not an excuse and doesn’t make it okay. Certain opinions should be kept to yourself. #sportsprchat |
| 9:50 pm | AXP112: | RT @UC_SID: BTW, I love #sportsPRchat // Me too! Can’t wait f or #SIDchat |
| 9:50 pm | sherylgudelsky: | But he is not paid for his opinion on Storm’s appearance #sportsprchat |
| 9:50 pm | tomokeefe1: | Q5: Too little, too late. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:50 pm | UC_SID: | Q5 Tiger need not apology to me. He needs to fix things w/ wife, get his life in order as he wants things. #sportsPRchat |
| 9:50 pm | elenaellie: | Q5 underwhelming #sportsPRchat |
| 9:50 pm | LindsayNK9: | Q5: Tiger’s statement was long overdue…i thought it would’ve prevented all the press to be sooner #sportsprchat |
| 9:50 pm | UC_SID: | I just want to see him play golf. His apology seemed more of a PR stunt #sportsPRchat |
| 9:51 pm | AXP112: | Q5 cant comment on it because i didn’t watch live because of #HAPPO but highlights show me that you see what you want from it #sportsprchat |
| 9:51 pm | knallen: | i think it was addressed too late. i mean yeah props to him for addressing it but waited too long #sportsprchat |
| 9:51 pm | BGleas: | @sherylgudelsky Ok, so now ESPN has to make a list of things he’s paid to give his opinion on? #sportsprchat |
| 9:51 pm | julia_flyer: | Q5: Didn’t watch. No questions, what’s the point? I got the gist of it later, and he was apologizing to the wrong audience. #sportsPRchat |
| 9:51 pm | FFasoyinu: | I feel bad for him…saying that speech was brutal. he would have done better firing from his heart than what he delivered #sportsprchat |
| 9:51 pm | MattLaCasse: | Q5 It meant absolutely nothing if he’s not answering questions. Answer questions and you become more believable. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:52 pm | smayknicks: | #SportsPRChat – Staged for sponsor dollars nothing more nothing less. About as robotic as they come |
| 9:52 pm | UC_SID: | and it was much to do about nothing #sportsPRchat |
| 9:52 pm | jrdischinger: | @mikeschaffer Was first step. Seemed genuine, though out & planned. Typical Tiger personality. Not polished public speaker. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:52 pm | Sean_Flynn: | Agreed. RT @julia_flyer: Still not an excuse and doesn’t make it okay. Certain opinions should be kept to yourself. #sportsprchat |
| 9:52 pm | jonlustig: | Q5 Didnt change my opinion one way or the other. Said the right things. To make a statement and then walk out was not helpful. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:53 pm | LindsayNK9: | @tomokeefe1 @knallen Yes! exactly! #sportsprchat |
| 9:53 pm | _nikimurray_: | Q5: I thought the coverage was overkill. Not like we’re in the middle of the Olympics or trade deadlines or anything… #SportsPRChat |
| 9:53 pm | julia_flyer: | Agree with all of this. RT @AXP112 cant comment-i didn’t watch because of #HAPPO but highlights show you see what you want #sportsprchat |
| 9:53 pm | UC_SID: | RT @julia_flyer: he was apologizing to the wrong audience. #sportsPRchat [AGREED. He needs to apologize to Elin & family, not us] |
| 9:53 pm | smayknicks: | #SportsPRChat and attack on media at end was comical .. sorry Tiger you don’t get to control the world |
| 9:53 pm | jrdischinger: | @mikeschaffer Just because it was written, rehearsed & robotic doesn’t mean we should judge him for his public speaking skills #SportsPRChat |
| 9:54 pm | mikeschaffer: | RT @ErichHeber If intent was to bring back lost sponsors/fans he probably failed. only medicine is a return to golf +major win #sportsprchat |
| 9:54 pm | UC_SID: | RT @_nikimurray_: Q5 thought the coverage was overkill. #SportsPRChat [exactly, esp. since he told us NOTHING. didn't even hint at a return] |
| 9:54 pm | _nikimurray_: | Q5: Thing that I most remember: he called his actions “foolish.” Writers had months to plan and they came up with that adj? #SportsPRChat |
| 9:55 pm | Ath4Hope: | q5 what is at the center of the apology? is it about his family life or his misrepresentation of himself to his fans?#sportsprchat |
| 9:55 pm | mikeschaffer: | Q6 Coming in 2 mins! #SportsPRChat |
| 9:55 pm | Sean_Flynn: | Q5-Here’s is what NYC thought about Tiger (Pic taken last Friday in Time’s Sq) http://yfrog.com/37tg0lj#sportsprchat |
| 9:55 pm | sherylgudelsky: | apology clouded even further by discussion of various motives for speaking out. never good. #sportsprchat |
| 9:55 pm | katiebailey: | Q5 – Better late than never… barely. Damage done. Best part was the end tho, where it felt most genuine and less rehearsed. #sportsPRchat |
| 9:56 pm | UC_SID: | @Ath4Hope seemed like he was just trying to stay to media to leave him alone #sportsprchat |
| 9:56 pm | _nikimurray_: | @UC_SID It was like ESPN had the speech on continuous loop. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:56 pm | MattLaCasse: | @jrdischinger Rehearsed and robotic = no one feels sympathy OR believes him. It was an #epicfail#SportsPRChat |
| 9:57 pm | tomokeefe1: | @katiebailey You thought that was genuine? It seemed robotic… like a publicist told them to do it #SportsPRChat |
| 9:57 pm | UC_SID: | @_nikimurray_ I KNOW. my wife was surprised when I didn’t have ESPN on this wknd. when I told her why, she understood #SportsPRChat |
| 9:57 pm | jonnew: | Q5: He was way overcoached and forced the dramatic pauses and looks straight into the camera. #sportsprchat |
| 9:57 pm | NearJay: | Q5 Dry and emotionless. To me he was placating, very putrid attempt at reprieve. He doesn’t get it. No, not really. #SportsPRChat |
| 9:58 pm | elenaellie: | @jonnew I think the apology coach now needs a press conf to apologize #sportsprchat |
| 9:58 pm | michaelmolinar: | q5 What I found funny was ESPN’s bottom line ticker during the press conference:http://img111.yfrog.com/i/8tdh.jpg #sportsprchat |
| 9:59 pm | Sean_Flynn: | Q5- Of course it was robotic. Tiger never wanted to apologize & a publicist wrote the speech. What wld truly make this better? #sportsprchat |
| 9:59 pm | mikeschaffer: | Q6 – With Cena/Batista, Edge/Jericho and HBK/Undertaker 2, how stoked are you for Wrestlemania? #SportsPRChat #wwe |
| 9:59 pm | BGleas: | Q5: In the words of Adrian “Win Rocky Win”. If Tiger comes back and wins, this mostly all goes away #sportsprchat |
| 9:59 pm | jonnew: | @elenaellie Brutal #sportsprchat |
| 9:59 pm | SportsandaLatte: | serious overkill! RT @_nikimurray_ @UC_SID It was like ESPN had the speech on continuous loop. #SportsPRChat #sportsPRchat |
| 10:00 pm | UC_SID: | @mikeschaffer mmm … not … next question please #SportsPRChat #wwe |
| 10:00 pm | ThatGuyHugs: | @mikeschaffer haha, great question. #sportsprchat |
| 10:00 pm | mikeschaffer: | RT @elenaellie: @jonnew I think the apology coach now needs a press conf to apologize #sportsprchat |
| 10:00 pm | Sean_Flynn: | Q5- ? for you PR people–What would have satisfied you last week with Tiger? I bet nothing. It was lose-lose, but necessary. #sportsprchat |
| 10:00 pm | knallen: | I stopped watching wrestling when it went from the WWF to the WWE. ha. but go crazy you wrestling nuts! #sportsprchat |
| 10:00 pm | Sean_Flynn: | RT @UC_SID: @mikeschaffer mmm … not … next question please #SportsPRChat #wwe |
| 10:00 pm | jonnew: | Q6: Where does HHH fit into the plans? Was surprised by Cena/Bautista. #wwe #sportsprchat |
| 10:00 pm | JoshHull: | Q5 #sportsprchat Tiger’s statement/apology rang true to me. IMHO I don’t think repairing relationships w sponsors was his goal. . . yet |
| 10:00 pm | BGleas: | RT @Sean_Flynn: Q5- ? for you PR people–What would have satisfied you last week with Tiger? I bet nothing. It was lose-lose, but necessary. #sportsprchat |
| 10:00 pm | _nikimurray_: | @UC_SID It always kills me when celebrities want the media to leave them alone. This is what you signed up for. #SportsPRChat |
| 10:01 pm | MattLaCasse: | @jrdischinger Of course it’s hard. But if you are going to apologize, at least come off as sincere. #sportsprchat |
| 10:01 pm | mikeschaffer: | @jonnew i hear a match w sheamus #sportsprchat |
| 10:02 pm | jonnew: | @mikeschaffer Makes sense. They need to speed up that storyline then. #sportsprchat |
| 10:02 pm | FFasoyinu: | Extremely stoked…would be my answer if I followed wrestling.#sportsprchat. |
| 10:02 pm | sherylgudelsky: | @Sean_Flynn agreed, his hole was too deep #sportsprchat |
| 10:02 pm | BGleas: | @6 – Who is Ricky “The Dragon” Steamboat going against? Unless he, Hulk and JYD are involved, I don’t care #sportsprchat |
| 10:02 pm | NearJay: | RT @MattLaCasse: @jrdischinger Of course it’s hard. But if you are going to apologize, at least come off as sincere. #sportsprchat |
| 10:02 pm | elenaellie: | Q6: will be stoked about wwe when Brutus the Barber Beefcake comes out of retirement #sportsprchat |
| 10:03 pm | julia_flyer: | @Sean_Flynn Exactly why it did more harm than good. He should have just let it fade into memory. Insincerity is bad PR. #sportsprchat |
| 10:03 pm | mikeschaffer: | @BGleas Dragon was HUGE at mania last year! #sportsprchat |
| 10:04 pm | jonnew: | @BGleas You need to watch the other promotion on SPIKE then. They’re all there. #sportsprchat |
| 10:04 pm | BGleas: | @julia_flyer I think @Sean_Flynn ‘s point was that no matter what he did, we’d all be on here criticizing it somehow #sportsprchat |
| 10:04 pm | mikeschaffer: | RT @elenaellie: Q6: will be stoked about wwe when Brutus the Barber Beefcake comes out of retirement #sportsprchat |
| 10:04 pm | ngoss: | Q6 – Legion of Doom vs. Bush Wackers? #sportsprchat |
| 10:05 pm | UC_SID: | @_nikimurray_ oh I agree. if you don’t want to be in the spotlight, get off the stage #SportsPRChat |
| 10:05 pm | BGleas: | @jonnew Good tip! I’m down with the old school wrestling. #sportsprchat |
| 10:05 pm | BGleas: | @mikeschaffer Wait, is he really back? #sportsprchat |
| 10:05 pm | mikeschaffer: | Thanks for another amazing #SportsPRChat! Give teen ironman sensation @hunterlussi a follow -transcript coming soon! |
| 10:06 pm | jonnew: | @BGleas Hulk, Flair and all their old WCW buddies have re-formed the band. #sportsprchat |
| 10:06 pm | KarlynLothery: | RT @Ath4Hope: Q4 If we are going to hold athletes to a high code of coduct, shouldnt this apply to sports media professionals as well? #sportsprchat |
| 10:06 pm | BGleas: | Thanks again @mikeschaffer Great work! #sportsprchat |
| 10:07 pm | julia_flyer: | Agreed. RT @BGleas: Thanks again @mikeschaffer Great work! #sportsprchat |
| 10:08 pm | knallen: | @mikeschaffer Thank you! #sportsprchat |
| 10:08 pm | UC_SID: | Great job @mikeschaffer as always #SportsPRChat |
| 10:08 pm | michaelmolinar: | @mikeschaffer thanks! #sportsprchat |
| 10:09 pm | jrdischinger: | @mikeschaffer Very interesting thing you have going! Look forward to more. #SportsPRChat |
| 10:09 pm | tomokeefe1: | @mikeschaffer Well done, as always! #SportsPRChat |
| 10:09 pm | Ath4Hope: | Thanks! @mikeschaffer #sportsprchat |
| 10:10 pm | UC_SID: | Hey #sportsPRchat, if you are in the Sports Info biz-or interested in it- going to hold a #SIDchat next Wed. at 2 pm ET/11 am PT |
| 10:10 pm | SportsandaLatte: | Thanks for another great #sportsPRchat @mikeschaffer ! |
| 10:11 pm | AXP112: | RT @UC_SID: Hey #sportsPRchat, if you are in the Sports Info biz-or interested in it- going to hold a #SIDchat next Wed. at 2 pm ET/11 am PT |
| 10:12 pm | mikeschaffer: | RT @UC_SID: Hey #sportsPRchat, if you are in the Sports Info biz-or interested in it- going to hold a #SIDchat next Wed. at 2 pm ET/11 am PT |
| 10:13 pm | katiebailey: | @tomokeefe1 I should clarify. MORE genuine. But overall, broad scheme of scheme of things? Not so much. #sportsPRchat |
| 10:13 pm | david_schwab: | Totally different context re: Apolo Ohno = unique look. DWTS champ. Crazy sport. Most decorated Oly ever (re: @AXP112 comment) #sportsprchat |
| 10:13 pm | LindsayNK9: | Awesome #sportsprchat |
| 10:13 pm | BGleas: | RT @UC_SID: Hey #sportsPRchat, if you are in the Sports Info biz-or interested in it- going to hold a #SIDchat next Wed. at 2 pm ET/11 am PT |
| 10:14 pm | katiebailey: | RT @UC_SID Hey #sportsPRchat, if you are in the Sports Info biz-or interested in it- going to hold a #SIDchat next Wed. at 2 pm ET/11 am PT |
| 10:15 pm | tomokeefe1: | @katiebailey Agreed. I know he’s a golfer, but I’ve seen live interviews with him, and he could have done much better #sportsPRchat |
| 10:16 pm | stearnscd: | Just returned from an afternoon of meetings and looks like I missed a good #sportsprchat. Hopefully able to catch next week! |
| 10:18 pm | katiebailey: | Enjoyed #sportsPRchat today. Thanks @mikeschaffer. Is this new time slot permanent? My hungry lunchtime stomach agrees with it. |
| 10:18 pm | UC_SID: | @katiebailey Thanks for the RT #sportsPRchat #SIDchat |
| 10:18 pm | UC_SID: | Thanks for the RTs @AXP112 @mikeschaffer @BGleas #sportsPRchat #SIDchat |
| 10:26 pm | NearJay: | Thanks for a great #sportsPRchat @mikeschaffer |
| 10:36 pm | stephanieeee6: | Q4 If we are going to hold athletes to a high code of coduct, shouldnt this apply to sports media professionals as well? #sportsprchat |
| 11:28 pm | MVNUSID: | RT @UC_SID: Hey #sportsPRchat, if you are in the Sports Info biz-or interested in it- going to hold a #SIDchat next Wed. at 2 pm ET/11 am PT |
#SportsPRChat Transcript – Feb. 18, 2010
February 18th, 2010 — #SportsPRChat
| February 18, 2010 | ||
|---|---|---|
| 3:13 am | mikeschaffer: | #SportsPRChat Thursday Noon EST! Special guest moderator @rob_e_smith! |
| 3:20 am | mikeschaffer: | @Canesgirl41 Here is how you participate on #SportsPRChat: http://thebuzzbymikeschaffer.com/?page_id=386 Thursdays Noon EST! |
| 3:51 am | mikeschaffer: | Just saw some of @rob_e_smith‘s #SportsPRChat topics – you are in for a treat tomorrow at Noon EST! |
| 3:52 am | ArielDeNeyPR: | RT @mikeschaffer: Just saw some of @rob_e_smith‘s #SportsPRChat topics – you are in for a treat tomorrow at Noon EST! |
| 3:55 am | rob_e_smith: | I will be special guest moderator for #SportsPRChat Thursday Noon EST. I’m open to any suggestions for topics to discuss. |
| 3:58 am | Jfavreau: | RT @rob_e_smith: I will be special guest moderator for #SportsPRChat Thursday Noon EST. I’m open to any suggestions for topics to discuss. |
| 4:11 am | mikeschaffer: | RT @rob_e_smith: I will be special guest moderator for #SportsPRChat Thursday Noon EST. I’m open to any suggestions for topics to discuss. |
| 4:11 am | Canesgirl41: | @mikeschaffer Thanks i look forward to the #SportsPRChat |
| 4:43 am | plandsem: | @rob_e_smith Thanks for the follow! Looking forward to tomorrow’s #SportsPRChat! |
| 12:30 pm | stephmajercik: | RT @rob_e_smith: I will be special guest moderator for #SportsPRChat Thursday Noon EST. I’m open to any suggestions for topics to discuss. |
| 1:20 pm | stephmajercik: | Hmmm, I wonder if we will be talking about Tiger Woods again in #sportsPRchat today? |
| 1:49 pm | mikeschaffer: | Join guest moderator @rob_e_smith for #SportsPRChat today at Noon EST! AWESOME topics lined up! |
| 1:49 pm | johnjustic: | Looking forward to #sportsprchat today! |
| 1:50 pm | DistrictInsider: | RT @mikeschaffer: Join guest moderator @rob_e_smith for #SportsPRChat today at 12pm EST! AWESOME topics lined up! |
| 2:29 pm | hdueitt: | RT @mikeschaffer: Join guest moderator @rob_e_smith for #SportsPRChat today at Noon EST! AWESOME topics lined up! |
| 2:55 pm | _nikimurray_: | RT @mikeschaffer: Join guest moderator @rob_e_smith for #SportsPRChat today at Noon EST! AWESOME topics lined up! |
| 2:59 pm | rob_e_smith: | @hdueitt Yes that will be on the slate for today along with a lot of other great topics. #SportsPRchat |
| 4:01 pm | rob_e_smith: | #SportsPRchat begins in one hour. I will be subbing in for @mikeschaffer as guest moderator today. |
| 4:07 pm | eglomb: | looking forward to it RT @rob_e_smith: #SportsPRchat begins in one hour. I will be subbing in for @mikeschaffer as guest moderator today. |
| 4:16 pm | mikeschaffer: | Reminer – #SportsPRChat with guest moderator @rob_e_smith at noon est!!! join in! |
| 4:19 pm | stephmajercik: | RT @mikeschaffer: Reminer – #SportsPRChat with guest moderator @rob_e_smith at noon est!!! join in! |
| 4:25 pm | Lane_Errington: | Wish I could make it today! RT @mikeschaffer Reminder – #SportsPRChat with guest moderator @rob_e_smith at noon est!!! join in! |
| 4:32 pm | Ath4Hope: | everyone here is very excited for #sportsprchat with guest moderator @rob_e_smith at noon est! were pumped!!! |
| 4:33 pm | rob_e_smith: | Tiger, Olympics, fans throwing things at bball games and more will be discussed on today’s #SportsPRchat at 12 pm EST. |
| 4:46 pm | rob_e_smith: | People are you’ll ready? I know am for another great #SportsPRchat coming at you at in 15 minutes at the top of the hour. |
| 4:48 pm | MattLaCasse: | RT @rob_e_smith: Tiger, Olympics, fans throwing things at bball games and more will be discussed on today’s #SportsPRchat at 12 pm EST. |
| 4:50 pm | twinchester16: | @kevindeshazo #SportsPRChat is kicking off in about 10 minutes. |
| 4:50 pm | stephmajercik: | Looking forward to #sportsPRchat w/ guest mod. @rob_e_smith! #sportsprchat |
| 4:57 pm | rob_e_smith: | Hi I?m Rob a U of L sport admin grad (Go CARDS) and I?m pleased to be today?s guest moderator. #SportsPRchat |
| 4:58 pm | eglomb: | Hi Rob! RT @rob_e_smith: Hi I?m Rob a U of L sport admin grad (Go CARDS) and I?m pleased to be today?s guest moderator. #SportsPRchat |
| 4:59 pm | rob_e_smith: | First I want to give thanks to @mikeschaffer giving me this opportunity to this. Q1 will be coming in 2 minutes #SportsPRchat. |
| 5:01 pm | rob_e_smith: | Q1 Is it a good/bad idea for Tiger Woods to have a tightly controlled public appearance with limited media on Fri? #SportsPRchat |
| 5:02 pm | rob_e_smith: | Q1 and Does anybody have any issues with Wood reading a prepared statement? #SportsPRChat |
| 5:02 pm | MattLaCasse: | Q1 If I was Tiger’s team, the only thing I’d worry about is coming off as fake. Not taking questions is a mistake, IMO. #sportsprchat |
| 5:03 pm | stephmajercik: | Q1 Personally I think its a good idea. Baby steps. From his #PR persons stand point this is a very SAFE move #sportsprchat |
| 5:03 pm | kevindeshazo: | good. let’s him control the situation (and the media). they want answers to unnecessary ?s. he can control the info. #sportsprchat |
| 5:03 pm | elenaellie: | Q1 tightly controlled or event controlled at all seems to be the oppposite of how i would describe whats been happening #sportsPRchat |
| 5:04 pm | stephmajercik: | RT @kevindeshazo: good. lets him control the situation and media they want answers to unnecessary ?s. he can control the info. #sportsprchat |
| 5:04 pm | juliesuzy: | Q1 It’s a bad idea to even have the hint of a suggestion that he’s getting back at accenture. People want contrite, not cocky #SportsPRChat |
| 5:05 pm | ThatGuyHugs: | @rob_e_smith It’s good, Tiger always like to control the message but this should have happened in Dec. #sportsprchat |
| 5:05 pm | SportsandaLatte: | Anyway to move #sportsPRchat after 12pm? I’ll have to miss today’s  |
| 5:05 pm | MattLaCasse: | @kevindeshazo Unecessary Q’s are what this is all about though. Q’s will be uncomfortable/tough, but he needs to take them. #sportsprchat |
| 5:06 pm | UC_SID: | @rob_e_smith Q1-kind of torn on this. Good his coming out, but there will still be questions left unanswered I believe #SportsPRchat |
| 5:06 pm | rob_e_smith: | @ThatGuyHugs I think thats why the Media has beef with Tiger because he has to control everything #sportsPRchat |
| 5:06 pm | elenaellie: | @MattLaCasse amen brother #sportsprchat |
| 5:07 pm | eglomb: | @MattLaCasse I completely agree with you. Tiger needs to come off as if he believes what he’s saying. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:07 pm | billium707: | I just don’t see what it will accomplish. Media will still keep pushing to try to get answers to whatever he ignores. #SportsPRchat |
| 5:08 pm | elenaellie: | Hey, I got it, he is using same PR strategy as Toyota cause that works so well….#sportsprchat |
| 5:08 pm | ThatGuyHugs: | @rob_e_smith I agree but it’s created his very marketable image (up to Nov) and the media slurps him up #sportsprchat |
| 5:09 pm | MattLaCasse: | RT @elenaellie: Hey, I got it, he is using same PR strategy as Toyota cause that works so well….#sportsprchat |
| 5:09 pm | stephmajercik: | @billium707 It’ll at least get his face out there. Show that he’s not going to be in hiding and that he will address the q’s #sportsprchat |
| 5:09 pm | UC_SID: | @rob_e_smith Tiger needs a prepared statement. seems to stuggle off the cuff, but he needs to appear genuine, not fake #SportsPRChat |
| 5:09 pm | stephmajercik: | Q1 I think Tigers team probably wants to test the waters before they go diving in head first. #sportsprchat |
| 5:09 pm | ThatGuyHugs: | It’s smart because it’s a multi-step approach…he can win people over in one day, small, controlled baby steps = good start #sportsprchat |
| 5:10 pm | eglomb: | haha i agree RT @elenaellie: Hey, I got it, he is using same PR strategy as Toyota cause that works so well….#sportsprchat |
| 5:10 pm | MattLaCasse: | @UC_SID Can that be done without something off the cuff (i.e. taking questions)? I don’t think so. #sportsprchat |
| 5:10 pm | rob_e_smith: | Q1 Is it by accident Tiger has this event right before the accenture match play. A sponsor who dropped him? #SportsPRchat |
| 5:11 pm | stephmajercik: | @ThatGuyHugs I completely agree! #sportsprchat |
| 5:11 pm | kevindeshazo: | @MattLaCasse they already know all the answers, so it’s a waste. uncomfortable/tough came w/Elin. tabloid Qs accomplish 0. #sportsprchat |
| 5:11 pm | MattLaCasse: | @stephmajercik Too late to test the waters. 3 months down the road, Tiger needs to man up and face the music. #sportsprchat |
| 5:11 pm | sherylgudelsky: | tiger’s tight control makes the whole thing feel so forced, public needs to see someone vulnerable and truly sorry #sportsPRchat |
| 5:12 pm | rob_e_smith: | Q2 will be coming in two minutes #SportsPRchat |
| 5:12 pm | UC_SID: | @MattLaCasse it’s difficult, but I do think in the end Tiger needs to take ?s & needs to be prepped on how to answer them #sportsprchat |
| 5:12 pm | MattLaCasse: | @kevindeshazo But it isn’t tabs at the “news conference”. Legit journs like @darrenrovell1 will ask tough Q’s, not sordid ones #sportsprchat |
| 5:13 pm | billium707: | @rob_e_smith I don’t think anything Tiger does is by accident. He’s controlled his image so tightly his whole career. #SportsPRchat |
| 5:13 pm | MattLaCasse: | @UC_SID That’s exactly right. Not taking Q’s still makes him appear as if he has something to hide. #sportsprchat |
| 5:14 pm | ThatGuyHugs: | An appearance on Oprah, Leno, Letterman, Walters can be just as controlled but seems more open & honest (Hugh Grant) #sportsprchat |
| 5:15 pm | rob_e_smith: | Q2 Do you find the winter Olympics interesting this year? Do you think NBC is doing a good job covering the event? #SportsPRchat |
| 5:15 pm | kevindeshazo: | @MattLaCasse sadly, I don’t trust any journalist to ask quality Qs. it’s more about boosting their status than getting answers #sportsprchat |
| 5:15 pm | stephmajercik: | @MattLaCasse I also agree he needs to face the music, but I can see why he’s taking it slow #sportsprchat |
| 5:15 pm | UC_SID: | @rob_e_smith Tiger’s best option would prolly be to shut up & play golf. Just cut the media off. Dont see it dying but oh well #sportsPRchat |
| 5:16 pm | stephmajercik: | Q2 I don’t watch the Winter Olympics that closely, but all my faves have been on. Have had no prob w/ NBC #sportsprchat |
| 5:16 pm | MattLaCasse: | @kevindeshazo That’s fair. #sportsprchat |
| 5:17 pm | ThatGuyHugs: | @rob_e_smith They are interesting DESPITE NBC’s delayed coverage. NBC, however, is good at presenting story #sportsprchat |
| 5:17 pm | rob_e_smith: | Q2 Thought s on Vonn winning the gold being on tape delay and the foul language w/Shaun White and his Coach? Is it a big deal? #SportsPRchat |
| 5:17 pm | UC_SID: | @rob_e_smith Q2-I’m struggling finding the Olympics interesting & NBC is doing a horrible job #SportsPRchat |
| 5:18 pm | UC_SID: | @rob_e_smith I want to watch the events in real time, not hours after the fact #SportsPRchat |
| 5:19 pm | MattLaCasse: | Q2 NBC tape-delaying stuff is ridiculous. Air it live then re-broadcast in primetime for those who missed it. #sportsprchat |
| 5:19 pm | rob_e_smith: | @UC_SID Q1 that’s what I want to see Tiger making birdies and clutch putts. #SportsPRchat |
| 5:19 pm | stephmajercik: | RT @MattLaCasse: Q2 NBC tape-delaying stuff is ridiculous. Air it live then re-broadcast in primetime for those who missed it. #sportsprchat |
| 5:20 pm | eglomb: | Q2 so far I’ve greatly enjoyed watched the Winter Olympics despite the tape delay on some events. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:20 pm | elenaellie: | trying to figure out why i feel is a snooz, maybe less2 do wth coverage more 2 do with lack of pre-game hype about competitors #sportsprchat |
| 5:21 pm | sherylgudelsky: | Q2 right, obnoxious when the news says close your eyes/ears if you dont want to know what happens bc you are waiting to watch #sportsprchat |
| 5:21 pm | kevindeshazo: | @rob_e_smith supposed tiger statement (leaked early) http://bit.ly/d9Cq31 #sportsprchat |
| 5:21 pm | UC_SID: | @rob_e_smith I don’t want stories, I want sports when I was the Olympics #SportsPRchat |
| 5:22 pm | billium707: | Q2: NBC is certainly making the Olympics less interesting & less appealing to me. Vonn’s performance was awesome. #SportsPRchat |
| 5:22 pm | rob_e_smith: | @eglomb Q2 Does knowing the outcome of a event take away from it #SportsPRchat |
| 5:23 pm | jonlustig: | Q2 I’m actually fine with the delay. When you watch the events live, you realize they take 2 hours. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:23 pm | elenaellie: | sadly, i think tragedy will help the ratings and make more people respect these lesser-known sports #sportsprchat |
| 5:23 pm | eglomb: | @rob_e_smith not when it came to Seth Westcott’s race. All I knew was that he won, I had no idea about any other part #SportsPRChat |
| 5:24 pm | jonlustig: | Q2 I’d like them to air the events on their non-NBC networks during the day, I really don’t think it would affect the ratings. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:24 pm | Ath4Hope: | by the end of summer games we knew what Phelps ate in the AM everyday. There needs to be more stories around the athletes #sportsprchat |
| 5:24 pm | twinchester16: | It’s as if the personal stories have become parodies of themselves at this point. I like a feel good story, but com’on. #sportsprchat |
| 5:25 pm | rob_e_smith: | @sherylgudelsky That is hard especially with people get alerts on their phones , facebook and twitter #sportsprchat |
| 5:25 pm | MattLaCasse: | RT @ChristopherNew Any1 who thinks they can avoid big sporting event results has never heard of Twitter/Internet in general. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:25 pm | elenaellie: | Q2 I knew you were going to say that, and it took away from the surprise of this chat…ar ar #sportsprchat |
| 5:26 pm | UC_SID: | @rob_e_smith YES knowing outcome of event takes away from it. I want to feel like I’m watching as it happens. not after fact #SportsPRchat |
| 5:26 pm | MattLaCasse: | @twinchester16 Preach it. I don’t watch college football for Tim Tebow’s backstory. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:26 pm | twinchester16: | The nature of a lot of winter sports don’t allow for great gold medal moments–ie racers starting at different times #sportsPRchat |
| 5:27 pm | jonlustig: | Q2 People who say they want the sports live and unfiltered undermine themselves by not caring about them for the next 4 years. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:27 pm | stephmajercik: | @rob_e_smith Knowing the outcome of an event takes all excitement out-Can’t get into the competition when you know who wins #sportsprchat |
| 5:29 pm | stephmajercik: | @twinchester16 Agree. Winter Olympics is a timing race, you watch each person one at a time…not as exciting as actual race #sportsprchat |
| 5:29 pm | kevindeshazo: | @twinchester16 agreed. that, and there is no michael phelps of the winter olympics. Ohno is the star & has 6 medals…ever. #sportsprchat |
| 5:30 pm | Ath4Hope: | @twinchester16 great point! all skiers should start at the top of the hill together! more injuries more drama better ratings! #sportsprchat |
| 5:31 pm | MattLaCasse: | Q2 Winter Olympics is definitely more team oriented…and thusly more interesting for me. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:34 pm | twinchester16: | Problem w/ tape delay: sports themselves don’t keep us captivated, it’s the suspense of seeing who wins. We know & dont watch. #sportsPRchat |
| 5:35 pm | KellyOhD: | Q2 I don’t mind the delay, and don’t check the medal count until after I’ve watched an event…airing the events live=problems #SportsPRChat |
| 5:36 pm | rob_e_smith: | Q3 108,000 atendend the NBA All-Star game. Should bball games be played in large football venues? #sportsprchat |
| 5:36 pm | KellyOhD: | anybody catch the excited expletives by Shaun White’s coach and the immediate backlash? can’t edit that out when its live #SportsPRChat |
| 5:36 pm | MattLaCasse: | @kevindeshazo Synchornized swimming is an art I tell you! It is the brush and my eyes are the canvas. #sarcasm #sportsPRchat |
| 5:37 pm | jonlustig: | Q3 Find somewhere they can do all that stuff outside. I think the streetball element would add a lot to it, for a few years. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:37 pm | sherylgudelsky: | Q2 I will especially mind the delay if it continues with hockey. Will completely take away from the game #sportsprchat |
| 5:37 pm | plandsem: | Oh, boy. Forgot to set the alarm last night. No #SportsPRChat for me – gotta go to class! |
| 5:38 pm | stephmajercik: | Q3 I don’t think there are many teams in the NBA that would draw a huge crowd like that. All-star game is a special case IMO #sportsprchat |
| 5:38 pm | MattLaCasse: | @rob_e_smith Q3 Big BB games should. Regular season games should not. There’s not as much excitement about reg. seas. BB. #sportsprchat |
| 5:38 pm | jonlustig: | Q3 I don’t think it matters with the all-star game, it’s a party. That the NCAA championship is played that way is a travesty. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:39 pm | rob_e_smith: | @jonlustig Q3 I like that idea could be interesting #sportsprchat |
| 5:39 pm | michaelmolinar: | Q3 If every football venue had screens like the Jerrytron so 108K could enjoy it might be OK. Otherwise what’s the point? #sportsprchat |
| 5:39 pm | KellyOhD: | I like the “enclosed” spaces of basketball..it adds to the high energy that is such an important aspect for the fans..6th man! #SportsPRChat |
| 5:39 pm | twinchester16: | ACC tournament @ Georgia Dome = no fun. For the All-Star game it’s fine. But real games need better atmosphere. #sportsPRchat |
| 5:39 pm | sherylgudelsky: | Q1: Ernie Els calls Tiger’s timing “selfish” http://bit.ly/b3eKwV #sportsprchat |
| 5:40 pm | rob_e_smith: | @michaelmolinar Q3 I’ll probably go to see the Jerrytron #sportsprchat |
| 5:41 pm | rob_e_smith: | Q4 coming in one minute #sportsprchat |
| 5:42 pm | rob_e_smith: | Q4 Did the Pothole incident that caused a two hour delay at the Daytona 500 hurt NASCAR?s image? #SportsPRchat |
| 5:42 pm | Ath4Hope: | its all about the experience! The fans are a huge part of the it so the more fans the more excitment better experience #sportsprchat |
| 5:43 pm | rob_e_smith: | RT @sherylgudelsky Q1: Ernie Els calls Tiger’s timing “selfish” http://bit.ly/b3eKwV #sportsprchat |
| 5:43 pm | stephmajercik: | Q4 I know a lot of people watching were annoyed w/ the incident. Race went on way longer than it should have #sportsprchat |
| 5:44 pm | ThatGuyHugs: | @rob_e_smith YES…Potholes belong in DC, not in NASCAR #sportsprchat |
| 5:44 pm | forrestkoba: | @rob_e_smith NASCAR is trying to grow their fanbase, but when an incident like the pothole arises, it alienates new followers. #sportsprchat |
| 5:44 pm | MattLaCasse: | Q4 I thought this chat was about sports? Kidding, kidding…Doesn’t hurt image, just annoying for fans. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:45 pm | rob_e_smith: | @KellyOhD Q3 I agree that why it think places like Duke’s cameron indoor stadium has such an advantage #sportsprchat |
| 5:45 pm | stephmajercik: | Hahaha RT @MattLaCasse Q4 I thought this chat was about sports? Kidding, kidding…Doesn’t hurt image, just annoying for fans. #sportsprchat |
| 5:45 pm | jonlustig: | Q4 I am a huge NASCAR fan, and I saw it as an embarrassment. Highlighted all the things wrong with how the sport is run. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:48 pm | twinchester16: | @apboyd Feel free to join in! Just search #SportsPRchat to join the conversation! |
| 5:48 pm | jonlustig: | Q4 It will be a black mark on the sport for years as far as non-fans are concerned. Fans got passed it and enjoyed the ending. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:48 pm | rob_e_smith: | Q5 WVU-PITT now UK-Miss St. What can the NCAA do to prevent fans from throwing things on the court bball games? #SportsPRchat |
| 5:49 pm | BGleas: | A little late to the chat, but…Q5: Empty the building #sportsprchat |
| 5:49 pm | MattLaCasse: | @jonlustig Q4 I disagree. Most non-fans probably aren’t even aware it happened. i #SportsPRChat |
| 5:51 pm | MattLaCasse: | Or at the very least threaten ejection and legal repercussions if caught. RT @BGleas: Q5: Empty the building #sportsprchat |
| 5:51 pm | jonlustig: | Q4 NASCAR has to evolve past being run by the France family, and going inside baseball, it needs to divest itself of ISC. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:51 pm | rob_e_smith: | @BGleas Q5 thats what I thought if fans can’t behave have a game or two with no attendance n c if that works #sportsprchat |
| 5:51 pm | elenaellie: | Q5 provide wrist band leash with all beers sold #sportsprchat |
| 5:51 pm | michaelmolinar: | Q5 Do like they do at soccer matches – ejections, bans from the grounds and/or legal action. #sportsprchat |
| 5:52 pm | Ath4Hope: | we suggest putting the team inside a large see through box! #sportsprchat |
| 5:52 pm | stephmajercik: | Q5 Might be extreme but put up barrier between court and fans. Like hockey #sportsprchat |
| 5:52 pm | hdueitt: | @rob_e_smith Q5. Timely response need to happen. Still nothing said about consequences for students who called Cousins. #sportsprchat |
| 5:53 pm | stephmajercik: | Q5 If its a question of numerous fans throwing ejections could be hard to enforce-if just one or two then that is a good route #sportsprchat |
| 5:53 pm | BGleas: | Q5: Guys on PTI have gone as far as expulsion for students that throw things. I think that’s a little too much. Anyone else? #sportsprchat |
| 5:54 pm | elenaellie: | @stephmajercik I actually think hockey sitch would encourage more bad behavior, which is ok in that venue, not ok overall #sportsprchat |
| 5:54 pm | BGleas: | @rob_e_smith I think that would suck, but be pretty effective. #sportsprchat |
| 5:55 pm | rob_e_smith: | @stephmajercik That could also prevent fans from the storming the court after a upset win #sportsprchat |
| 5:55 pm | MattLaCasse: | @BGleas Q5 It’s over the top, no doubt. But it may be the only thing that scares students enough to stop throwing objs #sportsprchat |
| 5:55 pm | jonlustig: | Q4 Liz Clarke got it pretty much right in her piece in Tuesday’s WaPost. Every NASCAR fan should read it for perspective. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:55 pm | hdueitt: | Q5: from a PR perspective, Miss St. Athletics should have addressed issue, PR team should be in crisis mgmt mode #sportsprchat |
| 5:55 pm | BGleas: | @hdueitt UK deserves what comes to them! (kidding, just can’t turn off my IU radar sometimes:) #sportsprchat |
| 5:56 pm | BGleas: | @michaelmolinar I agree. Taking away someones education needs to be thought about long and hard prior to doing it. #sportsprchat |
| 5:57 pm | hdueitt: | @michaelmolinar but is expulsion so harsh when a key player gets injured because of their actions? #sportsprchat |
| 5:57 pm | stephmajercik: | @rob_e_smith @elenaellie Yes, there are definitely positives and negatives to it. It depends on the degree of situation IMO #sportsprchat |
| 5:58 pm | rob_e_smith: | Q6 What is a smart move for the Oakland Raiders to sign Sebastian Janikowski to a record deal for an NFL kicker? #SportsPRchat |
| 5:58 pm | hdueitt: | @BGleas ouch. I was expecting that to come from @rob_e_smith (he’s a UL grad) #sportsprchat |
| 5:59 pm | jonlustig: | Q5 Very tough problem. Voiding wins would be my answer. Would force the crowd to police itself. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:59 pm | michaelmolinar: | @hdueitt if a player gets injured than the person who threw object can be held financially liable for their actions in court. #sportsprchat |
| 6:00 pm | elenaellie: | Q6 Raiders and kickers do not matter, next question #sportsprchat |
| 6:00 pm | MattLaCasse: | Q6 Other than their stellar CB, there hasn’t been another player WORTH giving record contract to for many years in Raiders org #SportsPRChat |
| 6:02 pm | hdueitt: | @michaelmolinar yes, but shouldn’t we be in prevention mode vs. reaction. #sportsprchat |
| 6:03 pm | jonlustig: | Q6 Well, ideally your kicker isn’t most of your offense. Shows them admitting they have a massive problem there. #SportsPRChat |
| 6:04 pm | sherylgudelsky: | haha –>SI.com: “NBC=Not Broadcasting Correctly” #sportsprchat |
| 6:04 pm | rob_e_smith: | Q7 How would u improve the NBA All-star slam dunk contest if its possible #sportsprchat |
| 6:05 pm | michaelmolinar: | @hdueitt I completely agree, but fans should be made to know the consequences before they do something stupid like that. #sportsprchat |
| 6:06 pm | jonlustig: | Q7 Throw out the elimination format. 3 rounds and your best dunk gets rated. #SportsPRChat |
| 6:07 pm | elenaellie: | Final; trampolines and fire and some sort of caged animal (oh yeah, the guys from WV in the cage)…#sportsprchat |
| 6:08 pm | SportsandaLatte: | Q7: add in some fan-made dunk attempts! #sportsPRchat |
| 6:08 pm | rob_e_smith: | @elenaellie Final; trampolines and fire and some sort of caged animal (oh yeah, the guys from WV in the cage)…#sportsprchat lol |
| 6:08 pm | michaelmolinar: | Q7 Get some non-NBA players in the draw involved via an online contest of some sort. #sportsprchat |
| 6:09 pm | Ath4Hope: | Thanks for another great #sportsprchat! Looking forward to next weeks chat! @rob_e_smith @mikeschaffer @bwfpr |
| 6:10 pm | MattLaCasse: | Q7 Have 6 participants play 3 on 3 for 30 minutes. Best dunk wins #SportsPRChat |
| 6:10 pm | sherylgudelsky: | @SportsandaLatte Agree, let fans in on the action, give them chance to win something or show off themselves #sportsPRchat |
| 6:11 pm | BGleas: | Not trying to self promote, but thought #sportsprchat might enjoy post from last year, since it’s NBA trade deadline http://bit.ly/cFYHbv |
| 6:12 pm | rob_e_smith: | Well that wraps up another edition of #sportsprchat. It was fun being the guest moderator. Have a great day everybody. |
| 6:13 pm | BGleas: | Great job! @rob_e_smith #sportsprchat |
| 6:13 pm | stephmajercik: | @rob_e_smith Great job with #sportsprchat today! Awesome discussion as usual! |
| 6:13 pm | SportsandaLatte: | Didn’t get to chat long, but thanks for another #sportsPRchat @rob_e_smith you did a great job  #sportsPRchat |
| 6:13 pm | michaelmolinar: | @MattLaCasse would totally agree w/that if the best dunk actually won rather than the best posterizing. #sportsprchat |
| 6:14 pm | SportsandaLatte: | yep! RT @BGleas Got to find a way to get the best in it…contest would be fine if it was LeBron,Wade,Kobe etc. #sportsprchat #sportsPRchat |
| 6:14 pm | jonlustig: | @rob_e_smith Great job moding today, fun convo. #SportsPRChat |
| 6:14 pm | michaelmolinar: | nice job @rob_e_smith! #sportsprchat |
| 6:15 pm | hdueitt: | @michaelmolinar I concur. Which goes back to the problem, nobody has set consequences or addressed them to date. #sportsprchat. |
| 6:16 pm | MattLaCasse: | @michaelmolinar I guess my def. of best dunk IS the best posterizing. “Posed” dunks don’t do anything for me. #sportsprchat |
| 6:21 pm | michaelmolinar: | Posed dunks today just aren’t original – don’t beat Vinsanity’s through-the-legs roundhouse or ‘Nique’s 2-hand windmill. #sportsprchat |
| 6:41 pm | UC_SID: | @rob_e_smith you did a great job … sorry I had to leave early, but I really enjoyed today’s #sportsprchat |
| 6:56 pm | KellyOhD: | @rob_e_smith great job with today’s #sportsprchat! |
#SportsPRChat Transcript – Feb. 4, 2010
February 4th, 2010 — #SportsPRChat
Here is the transcript from today’s record-setting #SportsPRChat, which had nearly 50 participants! Thank you!!!!
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| 12:29 am | JasMollica: | @Mikinzie #sportsprchat is a good one.. |
| 12:49 am | bitty_boop: | @Mikinzie It’s #sportsprchat |
| 12:49 am | stephmajercik: | @Mikinzie @bitty_boop Its #SportsPRChat and its awesome! I participate fairly regularly, always good discussion topics from @mikeschaffer |
| 1:03 am | stephmajercik: | Just another reason why I love adidas! Creating “one-euro” shoes for their workers in Bangladeshhttp://bit.ly/dAg9I4 #adidas #sportsprchat |
| 2:09 am | ValerieSimon: | @Mikinzie Check out @mikeschaffer ‘s #SportsPRChat |
| 4:32 am | mikeschaffer: | @ValerieSimon @andinarvaez @stephmajercik thanks for #sportsprchat love |
| 4:37 am | andinarvaez: | @mikeschaffer my pleasure! #sportsprchat |
| 2:35 pm | mikeschaffer: | Have topic ideas for #SportsPRChat today at noon est? I have a few open spots! DM me! |
| 2:37 pm | Worob: | @mikeschaffer Maybe something on Mayweather? Certainly he’ll be asked questions about what Mosley agreed to testing-wise #SportsPRChat |
| 2:52 pm | HelenaHimm: | @mikeschaffer Is it general topic? What about the MLS Collective Bargaining Agreement? & USA World Cup Roster? =D #SportsPRChat |
| 3:25 pm | knallen: | errands…trying to be back for #sportsprchat! |
| 4:32 pm | mikeschaffer: | Just 30 mons until #SportsPRChat! |
| 4:33 pm | mikeschaffer: | and by 30 mons, I mean 30 mins til #SportsPRChat #DontTweetandDrive |
| 4:35 pm | stephmajercik: | Getting set up for #sportsprchat |
| 4:36 pm | stephmajercik: | @Mikinzie Will you be at #SportsPRChat this afternoon? |
| 4:46 pm | JasMollica: | Wish I could be part of #SportsPRChat today. Would love to see what everyone is looking forward to most during the Olympics. Me? Hockey. |
| 4:57 pm | mikeschaffer: | Starting #SportsPRChat in less than 5 mins! Got some juicy topics, so feel free to snooze me if you aren’t interested. Not offended! |
| 4:59 pm | _nikimurray_: | Lunch at my desk for #SportsPRChat |
| 5:00 pm | justplayindumb: | @mikeschaffer Real excited to get this sports chat going! #SportsPRChat |
| 5:00 pm | Lane_Errington: | Back in for #sportsprchat today! |
| 5:00 pm | mikeschaffer: | LIVE from Washington, DC, home of this weekend’s #Snowmaggedon, it’s #SportsPRChat! Got some awesome topics this week! Q1 in 1 min! |
| 5:02 pm | mikeschaffer: | Q1 – Ripped from The Mike Wise Show (FYI @stephen_ball02) – How do you feel about athletes being open with religion? #SportsPRChat |
| 5:02 pm | tshepard: | Will be in & out of #SportsPRChat today. |
| 5:04 pm | JeremyNPike: | #SportsPRChat Athletes are regular human beings, other than the fact they make boatloads more money. Perfectly fine by me. |
| 5:04 pm | justplayindumb: | I don’t have a problem with it as long as interviews/analysis are not used as a way to spread there beliefs #SportsPRChat |
| 5:05 pm | tshepard: | Q1- I think it’s perfectly fine that they state their views as long as they don’t use their fame to push them onto others #SportsPRChat |
| 5:05 pm | mikeschaffer: | Q1 – What about thanking god when they win? Did god want the other team to lose? #SportsPRChat |
| 5:06 pm | SportsandaLatte: | Q1: hmmm religion is a very touchy subj.(politics 2) to bring in the mix, but they r human and have rights 2 their beliefs #sportsPRchat |
| 5:06 pm | sherylgudelsky: | Q1-fine with it, unless over-publicizing it makes people start to think it is not genuine/religion being used for PR only #sportsprchat |
| 5:06 pm | _nikimurray_: | Q1: I think of it the same way I do as athletes and celebrities talking about their politics. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:06 pm | sheesidd: | Q1- I think it’s fine to be open w/ it, but openly promoting it a la Tim Tebow is bound to ruffle feathers. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:06 pm | Sean_Flynn: | Q1 – Pray, but don’t push (onto others) #SportsPRChat |
| 5:07 pm | Lane_Errington: | “It’s his first major national ad since leaving the Gators, and he isn’t hawking Nike’s, energy drinks or candy bars.” ESPN – #sportsprchat |
| 5:07 pm | justplayindumb: | Q1 – I don’t see a problem with it at all, they are just giving praise to the man they attribute for their skills! #SportsPRChat |
| 5:08 pm | JeremyNPike: | #SportsPRChat Are they thanking God for the win, or God blessing them with their abilities? God isn’t too concerned with game outcomes |
| 5:08 pm | MattLaCasse: | And the congregation said, “Amen.” RT @Sean_Flynn: Q1 – Pray, but don’t push (onto others) #SportsPRChat |
| 5:08 pm | Jfavreau: | Q1 I agree as long as it isn’t a platform to push onto others. They should be okay. #sportsprchat |
| 5:08 pm | sherylgudelsky: | @Lane_Errington And what implications will his ad have on future endorsement opportunities? #sportsprchat |
| 5:09 pm | stephmajercik: | @JeremyNPike I agree. I think its mostly a form of thanking him for getting them through the game #sportsprchat |
| 5:09 pm | Lane_Errington: | Whether pro-choice/pro-life, conservative/liberal, God-fearing/atheist, you’ve got to admire Tebow for his conviction #sportsprchat |
| 5:10 pm | mikeschaffer: | Q2 coming up in 3 mins! #SportsPRChat |
| 5:10 pm | Berly624: | #SportsPRChat Q1 if they’re sincere a/b beliefs, its better to note that God provides all talents/blessings, not just today’s win. |
| 5:10 pm | ithakid: | Q1 Well, if the other team is the Yankees, then, yes, God did want the other team to lose. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:11 pm | JeremyNPike: | @Sherylgudelsky #SportsPRChat I think Tebow’s message is even stronger because he doesn’t care about the potential of hurting endorsements |
| 5:11 pm | Ath4Hope: | is taping a commerical any different from when players kneel down in the endzone after TD?both nationally watched? #sportsPRChat |
| 5:11 pm | Jfavreau: | RT @Sean_Flynn: Q1 – Pray, but don’t push (onto others) #SportsPRChat |
| 5:11 pm | stephmajercik: | @sherylgudelsky Maybe endorsements aren’t his main concern. #sportsprchat |
| 5:11 pm | SportsandaLatte: | Q1: As far as Tebow goes- 2 me, his appearance isn’t pushing/preaching…those who choose 2 care will, those who don’t, won’t. #sportsPRchat |
| 5:12 pm | _nikimurray_: | @Lane_Errington I respect his conviction. he knows this is the story and I’m not entirely sure he doesn’t want it that way.#SportsPRChat |
| 5:12 pm | mikeschaffer: | Tweet of the Year? RT @ithakid Q1 Well, if the other team is the Yankees, then, yes, God did want the other team to lose. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:12 pm | stephmajercik: | Haha agree! RT @ithakid: Q1 Well, if the other team is the Yankees, then, yes, God did want the other team to lose. #sportsprchat |
| 5:12 pm | Lane_Errington: | @JeremyNPike agreed #sportsprchat |
| 5:12 pm | Ath4Hope: | and isn’t Tebows Brand always been a christian conservative brand? #sportsPRChat |
| 5:13 pm | tjdietderich: | @sheesidd #sportsPRchat Agreed. One hopes that God has better things to worry about then field goals. |
| 5:13 pm | _nikimurray_: | RT @ithakid: Q1 Well, if the other team is the Yankees, then, yes, God did want the other team to lose. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:13 pm | Worob: | Sorry I’m late – Andrew Worob – AS at Ruder Finn – former sports reporter for MLB.com & blogger for PR at Sunrise (worob.com) #sportsprchat |
| 5:13 pm | tshepard: | Agreed – consistency is most important here RT @Ath4Hope: and isn’t Tebows Brand always been a christian conservative brand? #sportsPRChat |
| 5:14 pm | JeremyNPike: | #SportsPRChat Honestly, isn’t it kind of refreshing to see an athlete who’s primary concern ISN’T money for once, re: Tebow? |
| 5:14 pm | mikeschaffer: | Q2 – From @ngoss (adapted) – Rumors say Tiger Woods will return to golf this month. Too Soon? How should PGA handle it? #sportsprchat |
| 5:15 pm | Worob: | Q1 Pray after the game if you must, but you don’t need to mention religion during an interview. #sportsprchat |
| 5:15 pm | sheesidd: | @tshepard Bt his brand has bn promoted by his parents moreso than him. He’s religious, bt his fam shoves it down ppl’s throats #SportsPRChat |
| 5:15 pm | Worob: | Q2 Whether it’s in two weeks or two years, Tiger’s return will need to be handled delicately #sportsprchat |
| 5:16 pm | sheesidd: | Q2- Not soon enough- Tiger should have never quit. He should have put focus back on golf instead of hiding. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:16 pm | justplayindumb: | Q2 – PGA should stay out of it, its none of their business! Tiger is the only reason most people watch golf, they need him #sportsprchat |
| 5:16 pm | sherylgudelsky: | @JeremyNPike YES, agree it makes his message stronger and is quite a change #sportsprchat |
| 5:16 pm | stephmajercik: | Q2- Good question! I don’t believe its too soon, the sooner he can get back to normal the better, but PGA needs to be careful #sportsprchat |
| 5:16 pm | JeremyNPike: | #SportsPRChat I don’t know, re: PGA. I don’t know what kind of action the PGA can take. Can they put morality rules in place? |
| 5:17 pm | stephmajercik: | Agree! RT @sheesidd Q2 Not soon enough- Tiger should have never quit. He should have put focus back on golf instead of hiding. #sportsprchat |
| 5:17 pm | _nikimurray_: | Q2: Too soon…for people to forget about it? That’s not gonna happen. The return should be based on his personal experience. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:17 pm | Worob: | Q2 Not sure it’s the PGA’s responsibility. I’d let Tiger stand up at the podium, admit he was wrong, and get into golf ?’s #sportsprchat |
| 5:17 pm | SportsandaLatte: | –> RT @sheesidd: Q2- Not soon enough- Tiger should have never quit. He should have put focus back on golf instead of hiding. #sportsPRchat |
| 5:17 pm | Sean_Flynn: | Q2 – One thing cures controversy: winning (ie. A-Rod steroids) PGA Should address his play, not is personal life. #sportsprchat |
| 5:18 pm | tshepard: | Q2- Not too soon. Although his image is damaged it shouldn’t effect him being able to play. Its his to come back #SportsPRChat |
| 5:18 pm | plandsem: | Q2 New to #SportsPRChat, PR student at Univ. of Oregon – It’ll be difficult for PGA, but more people watch golf when Tiger plays. |
| 5:19 pm | stephmajercik: | Q2 The scandal never had anything to do with his golf ability, so it shouldn’t be a problem. #sportsprchat |
| 5:19 pm | ngoss: | Q2 – Better for him to get back now, rather then make it even bigger if he returns for the Masters in April. #sportsprchat |
| 5:19 pm | mikeschaffer: | @Worob But should PGA Tour push him to do it as part of his return? #sportsprchat |
| 5:19 pm | sherylgudelsky: | Q2: @Worob think that is what a lot of people think he should do that. but will he actually address the media/fans is the Q…#sportsprchat |
| 5:19 pm | _nikimurray_: | I agree with @worob. Make a statement, say you regret your actions, and then all his PR outreach should focus on golf. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:20 pm | mikeschaffer: | @plandsem Welcome to the family #SportsPRChat |
| 5:20 pm | juliesuzy: | Q1 I think athletes need 2 thnk Gd for making them who they are not thnk Gd for winning Gd cares about character not trophies #SportsPRChat |
| 5:20 pm | Lane_Errington: | well said @Sean_Flynn One thing cures controversy: winning (A-Rod steroids) PGA Should address his play, not his personal life #sportsprchat |
| 5:20 pm | JeremyNPike: | #SportsPRChat If the PGA does nothing, though, do they take a hit for not doing something to crack down on Tiger? They need Woods… |
| 5:20 pm | mikeschaffer: | Q3 coming in 3 mins! #SportsPRChat |
| 5:20 pm | JeremyNPike: | #SportsPRChat But would accepting him back with open arms and not having him do something tarnish their image? |
| 5:21 pm | Worob: | @mikeschaffer Absolutely. I’d hope Tiger’s PR team was pushing him to admit his wrong’s and move on #sportsprchat |
| 5:21 pm | FemiFasoyinu: | Q2 – arrive with a welcome card and gift basket with tiger’s name on it. PGA needs tiger for ratings in golf #sportsprchat |
| 5:21 pm | sherylgudelsky: | not sure if it is the PGA’s responsibility to deal with his scandal, just his golfing #sportsprchat |
| 5:21 pm | _nikimurray_: | Q2: PGA should only comment on the golf. I would rec’d to Tigers people to address it though. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:21 pm | mikeschaffer: | @JeremyNPike Interesting point – I don’t think cheating on your wife warrants discipline from the PGA #SportsPRChat |
| 5:21 pm | Worob: | Q2 If you don’t admit wrongdoing then Tiger risk’s turning into the Mark McGwire of golf #sportsprchat |
| 5:22 pm | jonlustig: | Q2 Not too soon. The PGA needs the ratings, and Tiger needs stories about him actually playing golf. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:22 pm | sheesidd: | @tshepard Def. I have no problems w/ Tim, he’s great (altho a Gator haha). This post:http://bit.ly/95QBv3 hits nail on head #SportsPRchat |
| 5:22 pm | justplayindumb: | Q2: The PGA is not Tigers mom & dad and if they were his dad did the same stuff so (BIG pat on the back from paps!) #SportsPRChat |
| 5:23 pm | JeremyNPike: | @mikeschaffer #SportsPRChat I don’t know if PGA should discipline him. Will they take an image hit if they welcome him back with open arms? |
| 5:23 pm | SportsandaLatte: | @Worob but didn’t he already admit wrongdoing? What more does he need to say? #sportsPRchat#sportsPRchat |
| 5:23 pm | plandsem: | @JeremyNPike They might think he’s already done enough; he’s really hurt his marriage and lost endorsement deals. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:23 pm | stearnscd: | Lil late to #SportsPRChat because of meeting, but looking forward to the rest of it |
| 5:23 pm | kelle6: | Tiger’s return shouldn’t be focused on his off course issues (yes they are going to be discussed) but more on his performance. #sportsprchat |
| 5:23 pm | mikeschaffer: | RT @FemiFasoyinu: Q2 – arrive with a welcome card and gift basket with tiger’s name on it. PGA needs tiger for ratings in golf #sportsprchat |
| 5:23 pm | aubreycichelli: | Q2 As for the PGATour, do they have rules against players having affairs? If not, they need to focus on the sport and events. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:24 pm | aubreycichelli: | Q2 Tiger needs to come back to a big event, WIN said event, and do it with Elin at his side. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:24 pm | JeremyNPike: | @plandsem #SportsPRChat That certainly is a good point. Maybe a short press-release saying we do not support his actions but feel he… |
| 5:24 pm | Lane_Errington: | @shesidd @tshepard RE: Tebow I’d say this one hits the nail on the head http://bit.ly/autWiM#sportsprchat |
| 5:24 pm | djreich: | Q2 sooner the better for PGA and golf for most popular golfer ever to return. No one remembers Kobe Bryant scandal anymore. #sportsprchat |
| 5:24 pm | JeremyNPike: | @plandsem #SportsPRChat has done his time? Or something along those lines. |
| 5:25 pm | mikeschaffer: | Q3 – Would **one-day** legalized and regulated nationwide gambling be good for the Super Bowl? #SportsPRChat |
| 5:25 pm | sherylgudelsky: | @djreich But Kobe addressed the media, wife by his side. that helped. #sportsprchat |
| 5:25 pm | stephmajercik: | @djreich Yes. Happens w/ most scandals that happen outside the sport. In enough time it will all be forgotten. #sportsprchat |
| 5:26 pm | _nikimurray_: | RT @aubreycichelli: Q2 Tiger needs to come back … and do it with Elin at his side. #SportsPRChat// don’t agree. think it appears forced. |
| 5:26 pm | SportsandaLatte: | Q2: You’d think he committed an actual crime here #sportsPRchat #sportsPRchat |
| 5:26 pm | JeremyNPike: | @Lane_Errington #SportsPRChat Great article. http://bit.ly/autWiM |
| 5:27 pm | aubreycichelli: | @_nikimurray_ Not if it’s not forced. If she’s planning on staying with him, do it publicly. Learn from Kobe. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:27 pm | tshepard: | Q3- I don’t think so. With so many players involved and “inside” sources I see it getting ugly. Good for ratings though. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:27 pm | JeremyNPike: | #SportsPRChat I fail to see what legalized and regulated nationwide gambling would do for the Super Bowl. Biggest sporting event in US. |
| 5:27 pm | Sean_Flynn: | Q3- Never, but I bet some PR person will attach a CSR component and it will happen. (lotto $ goes to elementary schools) #SportsPRChat |
| 5:27 pm | _nikimurray_: | Q3: Good in what way? Ratings? #SportsPRChat |
| 5:27 pm | juliesuzy: | Q3 I think gambling is accessible enough. It’s an addiction for some, dsn’t need to be expanded. But it would benefit the SB #sportsprchat |
| 5:28 pm | stephmajercik: | Q3 – Why would the Super Bowl need the extra help? #sportsprchat |
| 5:28 pm | mikeschaffer: | @_nikimurray_ Fan interest, taxable winnings, etc #SportsPRChat |
| 5:28 pm | ithakid: | Q3 Smartly regulated legalized gambling would benefit sports. Anyone who wants to place bets already can. Bring it in daylight #SportsPRChat |
| 5:28 pm | plandsem: | @JeremyNPike #SportsPRChat That would probably suffice. They just want him back on tour and don’t want to crack down too hard. |
| 5:29 pm | silvasq3: | @mikeschaffer People can still bet on game – but “one-day” legalization would tarnish image. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:29 pm | tshepard: | Q3- I think they benefit would be less for the Super Bowl maybe better for regular season ratings and interest. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:29 pm | RobertCInnis: | What time did #sportsprchat start. Tigers return, would be frowned upon. if he plays well that would rebuild his image http://myloc.me/3uRiv |
| 5:30 pm | mikeschaffer: | Q3 – If the winnings were taxed, that could pump some money into the economy… #SportsPRChat |
| 5:30 pm | SponsorPark: | might not be a “real” crime, but it goes against everything his sponsors signed him for – his image, his integrity. #sportsprchat |
| 5:30 pm | Lane_Errington: | Agree with @silvasq3 @mikeschaffer People can still bet on game – but “one-day” legalization would tarnish image. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:30 pm | FemiFasoyinu: | Q3 – the game is enough of a spectacle as is. I think gambling would take away from the SB. Should be about players, game. #sportsprchat |
| 5:30 pm | stearnscd: | Q3 – No it wouldn’t. But we can’t hide the fact how much money is currentyl gambled on it #SportsPRChat |
| 5:31 pm | aubreycichelli: | Q3-just feels wrong to me. I’m sure there are $, rating reasons, but if it makes your stomach turn, probly not a good idea. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:31 pm | plandsem: | @mikeschaffer #SportsPRChat Little late, but I just saw your reply. Thanks! I’m learning a lot! |
| 5:31 pm | juliesuzy: | Q3 also I think some of the attraction to gambling is that it’s illegal. Open up access and it’s not as cool #SportsPRChat |
| 5:31 pm | _nikimurray_: | RT @stephmajercik: Q3 – Why would the Super Bowl need the extra help? #sportsprchat |
| 5:32 pm | Ath4Hope: | RT @ FemiFasoyinu the game is enough of a spectacle as is. I think gambling would take away from the SB. #sportsprchat much agreed! |
| 5:32 pm | JeremyNPike: | @FemiFasoyinu #SportsPRChat I agree. There’s already enough detracting from the game, don’t take away even more attention. |
| 5:32 pm | jonlustig: | Q3 Anyone who wants to bet on the game already can. The US rating is at 100,000,000, how many more people can watch anything? #SportsPRChat |
| 5:32 pm | mikeschaffer: | Q4 in 2 mins! #SportsPRChat |
| 5:33 pm | mikeschaffer: | Reminder that #SportsPRChat is brought to you by @bwfpr and http://www.bwfpr.com, the official blog of BWF Communications! |
| 5:33 pm | SportsandaLatte: | @SponsorPark true & agreed. Just don’t think any more needs to be said…should just get back to the game and earn it back #sportsPRchat |
| 5:33 pm | plandsem: | Q3 The Super Bowl already generates a lot for the economy – especially in places like New Orleans this year. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:33 pm | stephmajercik: | @djreich I think ads are still effective- Millions of people watch the Super Bowl simply for the adshttp://bit.ly/aUm3Ty #sportsprchat |
| 5:33 pm | djreich: | @mikeschaffer how about allowing in struggling cities? Worked 4 Atlantic City, New Orleans. Help markets that really need it. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:33 pm | _nikimurray_: | Q3: I don’t think the super bowl benefits, but there could be benefits for others (taxable, etc.)…but I still don’t like it #sportsprchat |
| 5:34 pm | juliesuzy: | Q3 I wonder what the differences would be if you did a survey of the influence of gambling on ratings for SB vs March Madness #SportsPRChat |
| 5:34 pm | BGleas: | Had to run out to pick up the wife’s birthday present for tomorrow, a little late for #SportsPRChat |
| 5:34 pm | Sean_Flynn: | Q3-how about the important SB bets:? over/under on how many times they show Kim Kardashian. I say 5-6 times. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:34 pm | mikeschaffer: | Q4 – Do we put too much stock in and attention towards college football signing day? #SportsPRChat |
| 5:35 pm | djreich: | Never done a twitter chat before. Lotta fun. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:35 pm | ThatGuyHugs: | @mikeschaffer yes, it would help with monetizing the event but a move to Saturday might be greater windfall #SportsPRChat |
| 5:35 pm | mikeschaffer: | @BGleas no worries…we saved a seat for you! #sportsprchat |
| 5:35 pm | Lane_Errington: | Former intern (now at @Octagon_AP)! Reminder #SportsPRChat brought to you by @bwfpr andhttp://www.bwfpr.com, the official blog of BWF Comm! |
| 5:36 pm | justplayindumb: | Q4: Way too much need those players to mature, takes 3-4 years to really see what u got/ like watching banana turn ripe #SportsPRChat |
| 5:36 pm | mikeschaffer: | @djreich glad to have ya on-board! #sportsprchat |
| 5:36 pm | JeremyNPike: | #SportsPRChat It’s like a draft for colleges. I don’t follow any high school football. It’s an opportunity to get acquainted with prospects |
| 5:36 pm | RobertCInnis: | Q3 regulated gambling would add a diff yet lucrative revenue steam. But that could also get corrupt. #sportsprchat http://myloc.me/3uROq |
| 5:37 pm | stephmajercik: | Q3 – I personally don’t pay attention to signing day-maybe if my school had a football team… #sportsprchat |
| 5:37 pm | BGleas: | Q4 – Yes, 2 much attention on HS kids picking colleges. Why is it ok to recruit a committed kid in fball, but not bball? #sportsprchat |
| 5:37 pm | stearnscd: | Q4 – CFB National Signing Day is like a holiday for some. It’s sad. It put’s tremendous pressure on kids and schools #SportsPRChat |
| 5:38 pm | plandsem: | Q4 You never know what recruits will turn out to be stars, but from a fan perspective, it generates a lot of excitement. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:38 pm | djreich: | @stephmajercik agreed. ads still reach millions. but not AS effective as used to be. Extra revenu streams can never hurt. #sportsprchat |
| 5:38 pm | Lane_Errington: | Already put way too much into the NFL Draft (i.e. McShay mock draft 1 month b4 of of reg season), so just following the model #sportsprchat |
| 5:38 pm | BGleas: | @mikeschaffer Thanks Mike, always enjoy these chats! Hopefully my wife will enjoy her gift, she better #sportsprchat |
| 5:38 pm | mikeschaffer: | @JeremyNPike Urban Meyer allegedly told a kid he is forgoing medical care to coach him! Seems a little extreme to me #SportsPRChat |
| 5:38 pm | _nikimurray_: | Q4: It’s just another aspect to College Football…another thing to get excited about. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:38 pm | jonlustig: | Q4 I agree with Michael Wilbon on this point, in a way it’s really awful the way high school kids are so fawned over. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:39 pm | stephmajercik: | @djreich I agree, but I don’t know if gambling would be the best way to do it #sportsprchat |
| 5:39 pm | tshepard: | Q4- Not specifically on signing day, but on recruits in general and the whole process, yes. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:39 pm | ThatGuyHugs: | Q4 Media driven “event”…they need content and this counts…#sportsprchat |
| 5:39 pm | mikeschaffer: | @stearnscd Right – on 17 yr old kids! #SportsPRChat |
| 5:39 pm | rob_e_smith: | Q4 It like college’s fb version of the NFL draft. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:39 pm | stearnscd: | Q4 – CFB recruiting is very cut throat. Think of all the violations that are reported and those that aren’t #SportsPRChat |
| 5:39 pm | Ath4Hope: | @mikeschaffer #sportsprchat have to leave early for a mtg. but thanks for another great chat session! looking forward to next week!! |
| 5:39 pm | JeremyNPike: | @mikeschaffer #SportsPRChat Well, that’s definitely bizarre. But I also think that’s more an exception than the norm, lol. Crazy, though. |
| 5:40 pm | stearnscd: | Q4 – And a lot of these 17-19 year old kids are being strung around like puppets. Although some of the are the puppeteers #SportsPRChat |
| 5:40 pm | aubreycichelli: | @mikeschaffer @JeremyNPike – I got to know Urban when he was here in Utah and I doubt that. Not his style. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:40 pm | BGleas: | @ThatGuyHugs Signing Day is really almost just an ESPN driven event. Other outlets participate, but ESPN is driving the bus #sportsprchat |
| 5:40 pm | rob_e_smith: | Q4 I think the problem is when your rating 8th and 9th graders bf they have fully develop their playing skills. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:40 pm | mikeschaffer: | RT @aubreycichelli: @mikeschaffer @JeremyNPike – I got to know Urban when he was here in Utah and I doubt that. Not his style. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:41 pm | plandsem: | @_nikimurray_ Exactly. Gives fans a chance to see who might help them get redemption, win more games, etc. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:42 pm | mikeschaffer: | Q5 in 2 mins! #SportsPRChat |
| 5:42 pm | _nikimurray_: | Q4: It’s supply and demand, just like anything else. And we sports fans are fairly demanding… #SportsPRChat |
| 5:42 pm | BGleas: | @plandsem @_nikimurray_ & gives adults a chance to make even more money off of HS and college kids #sportsprchat |
| 5:43 pm | stearnscd: | Q4 – ESPN is the definitive driving force behind it. All day coverage, reporters all over the nation, etc #SportsPRChat |
| 5:43 pm | Sean_Flynn: | Q4- Nope! These are the very kids we will be placing our Super Bowl bets on in a few short years. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:43 pm | ThatGuyHugs: | @_nikimurray_ I agree but the supply created the demand…wasn’t televised years ago… #SportsPRChat |
| 5:44 pm | Lane_Errington: | love this tweet! RT @_nikimurray_ Q4: It’s supply and demand, just like anything else. And we sports fans are fairly demanding #sportsprchat |
| 5:44 pm | mikeschaffer: | Q5 – A nod to @BGleas‘s blog last week – Did moving the Pro Bowl to the week BEFORE the Super Bowl make you more interested? #SportsPRChat |
| 5:44 pm | stearnscd: | Hahaha RT @ Sean_Flynn: Q4- Nope! These are the very kids we will be placing our Super Bowl bets on in a few short years. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:44 pm | plandsem: | @BGleas True, but kids & their parents aren’t complaining about the system. This is what they work (& pay for) for 18 yrs. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:45 pm | sherylgudelsky: | It is definitely exciting for a football obsessed campus to have signing day when we are starting to miss football season #sportsprchat |
| 5:45 pm | aubreycichelli: | Q5 #sportsPRChat – simply, no. |
| 5:47 pm | ThatGuyHugs: | @juliesuzy Was Pro Bowl ever relevant? #SportsPRChat |
| 5:47 pm | stephmajercik: | Q3 It was definitely brought up in conversation more. I normally never hear about it #sportsprchat |
| 5:47 pm | _nikimurray_: | Q5: No. I think of it as a post-season event. Then, I’m a Pats fan, so the past few weeks have felt like postseason. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:47 pm | SportsandaLatte: | oops that was for Q5! the move didn’t make me more or less interested…but it did cut into the Grammys *hmph* #sportsPRchat |
| 5:48 pm | aubreycichelli: | RT @ThatGuyHugs: @juliesuzy Was Pro Bowl ever relevant? #SportsPRChat |
| 5:48 pm | djreich: | Q5 yes but sill didn’t really care. As a Saints fan, all I cared about was Super Bowl coverage woven into Pro Bowl coverage . #SportsPRChat |
| 5:48 pm | Jfavreau: | Q5.. No I didn’t get more excited for it. I am not an NFL fan really but I heard about it being moved. It makes sense though. #sportsprchat |
| 5:48 pm | Jfavreau: | RT @aubreycichelli: RT @ThatGuyHugs: @juliesuzy Was Pro Bowl ever relevant? #sportsprchat |
| 5:48 pm | mikeschaffer: | @_nikimurray_ hahahahaha sorry about that – my ravens were very happy #sportsprchat |
| 5:49 pm | rob_e_smith: | Q5 I think it just provided more work for the grounds crew at the newly named Sun Life Stadium #SportsPRChat |
| 5:49 pm | mikeschaffer: | @_nikimurray_ and @jeffespo led the ravens charge at that game – said it was “wicked awesome” #sportsprchat |
| 5:49 pm | tshepard: | Q5: It was worth a shot and I actually felt there was more press coverage, but I don’t think it made much of an impact. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:50 pm | stephmajercik: | RT @tshepard It was worth a shot and I actually felt there was more press coverage, but I dont think it made much of an impact #sportsprchat |
| 5:50 pm | JeremyNPike: | @mikeshaffer @_nikimurray_ I don’t want to hear it… I’m a Bills fan. Postseason starts right around week 10 for me. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:51 pm | mikeholden: | @mikeschaffer Q5 – I think it may have created more awareness but I was still uninterested. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:51 pm | ThatGuyHugs: | Q5 Extends footprint and life of SB in media and Miami, Pro Bowl = marketing tool this year, not vacation like in years past #sportsprchat |
| 5:51 pm | BGleas: | Q5 – It’s tricky. I’d rather watch Pro Bowl the week of S.B., but I’d also rather watch the game with all the players in it #sportsprchat |
| 5:51 pm | kelle6: | I’ve never been interested in the Pro Bowl..whether in Hawaii or Florida, or pre or post Super Bowl..it doesn’t mean anything! #sportsprchat |
| 5:51 pm | Sean_Flynn: | Q5 – Apparently so. I watched for the first time in a long time (along with 40% more Americans) #SportsPRChat |
| 5:52 pm | stearnscd: | Q5 – Good for them trying something different at Pro Pla, i mean Landsh, err Sun Life Stadium. But ultimately no #SportsPRChat |
| 5:52 pm | mikeschaffer: | RT @paullucci Now it made me less interested. I didn’t watch. I prefer the ProBowl after the Super Bowl for one last fix. #sportsprchat |
| 5:52 pm | mikeschaffer: | RT @mikeholden: @mikeschaffer Q5 – I think it may have created more awareness but I was still uninterested. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:52 pm | kelle6: | agree there was a lot of press leading up RT @mikeholden I think it may have created more awareness but still uninterested. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:53 pm | mikeschaffer: | Q6 Coming in 2 mins! #SportsPRChat |
| 5:53 pm | djreich: | @stephmajercik @tshepard I agree. Same enthusiasm over game itself. But better press coverage bc included SuperBowl coverage. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:54 pm | JeremyNPike: | #SportsPRChat All the stuff during Pro Bowl Week interests me a lot more, but would’ve watched it if I had ESPN. Annoyed about when it was. |
| 5:54 pm | rob_e_smith: | It also did not help the pro bowl was competing against the #grammys #SportsPRChat |
| 5:54 pm | mikeschaffer: | Q6 – Curious – where do you get most of your sports information from? Be specific! #SportsPRChat |
| 5:55 pm | Jfavreau: | Q5. How many members of the Super Bowl teams participated in the Pro Bowl game? #sportsprchat |
| 5:55 pm | tshepard: | Q6 – Recently Twitter because I follow so many sports ppl. I typically see a tweet and search for more info on the web #SportsPRChat |
| 5:56 pm | mikeschaffer: | @Jfavreau Zippity. 13 players were not eligible to play in the pro bowl… #sportsprchat |
| 5:56 pm | Jfavreau: | Q6 Twitter, the game, and blogs. Plus, TSN and ESPN. I am a hockey nut though so I am kind of pro Canadian w/dash of FB. #sportsprchat |
| 5:56 pm | _nikimurray_: | RT @JeremyNPike: @mikeshaffer @_nikimurray_ I don’t want to hear it… I’m a Bills fan. Postseason starts right around week 10 for me. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:56 pm | MVNUSID: | @mikeschaffer Q6 – Honestly, I’ve started catching all my latest sports info thru Twitter and then following links #SportsPRChat. |
| 5:56 pm | mikeschaffer: | @JeremyNPike I love the drama of who doesn’t show up and the scrubs they call to fill the roster! #sportsprchat |
| 5:57 pm | JeremyNPike: | #SportsPRChat Lots of places. Twitter, ESPN, nfl.com, CBSSports.com, BleacherReport, PFT (even though I can’t stand Florio)… |
| 5:57 pm | sherylgudelsky: | si.com; articles poeple post on twitter #sportsprchat |
| 5:57 pm | stephmajercik: | Q6 Twitter, people from this chat and my email. I subscribe to #Indians mailings, ESPN, etc #sportsprchat |
| 5:57 pm | stephmajercik: | Q6 and I subscribe to sports business blogs in my google reader #sportsprchat |
| 5:57 pm | djreich: | Q6 A bit older school with sports news for some reason. I read Sports Illustrated Mag and try to watch SportsCenter everyday. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:58 pm | rob_e_smith: | Q6 ESPN tv n radio. Although they do over hype some stuff. I think ESPN tries to create hollwood drama than report the news. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:58 pm | MVNUSID: | @mikeschaffer Q6 – Fortunately, I follow a lot of great people and outlets on Twitter and that gets me the info as it breaks. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:58 pm | JeremyNPike: | @mikeschaffer #SportsPRChat There is a certain sense of hilarity to that whole process. Annoys me that stars aren’t in it, but still funny |
| 5:58 pm | _nikimurray_: | Q6: We have ESPN and MLB on at work. Plus, you know, our PR department. #SportsPRChat |
| 5:58 pm | BGleas: | Q6 – Twitter and of course ESPN. I follow a few specific teams more closely than others & gather sports news as I follow them #Sportsprchat |
| 5:58 pm | ThatGuyHugs: | Q6 Sports Business Journal, SportsPro Daily, SI.com, ESPN.com, Deadspin, email, RSS #sportsprchat |
| 5:58 pm | SportsandaLatte: | Q6: ESPN, SBJ subscription, and my timeline on Twitter #sportsPRchat |
| 5:58 pm | mikeschaffer: | Interesting – Twitter seems to be a popular place to get breaking news! #SportsPRChat |
| 5:59 pm | _nikimurray_: | Q6: Twitter is huge – especially when it comes to rumors that other places wait to report #SportsPRChat |
| 5:59 pm | Jfavreau: | Q6 I also have a local sports writer on FB and he loves it. Plus, mobile alerts from local newspapers. #sportsprchat |
| 5:59 pm | aubreycichelli: | Q6 #sportsprchat: ESPN, Sports Illustrated, CBSSports.com, BYU Cougars and Utah Utes websites (go mountain west!), and of course Twitter |
| 5:59 pm | kelle6: | Q6: I watch Sports Center every morning and follow through twitter during the day. #sportsprchat |
| 5:59 pm | mikeschaffer: | For me: Twitter, BaltimoreSun.com (you can take the kid out of Baltimore, but…), CBSSports.com (trumps ESPN.com for news) #SportsPRChat |
| 5:59 pm | jonlustig: | Q6 XM great for sports. Lots of games and analysis from lots of sources. TSN, ESPN.com, the Sporting News, other papers/mags. #SportsPRChat |
| 6:00 pm | Sean_Flynn: | Q6 – Sports reporters on twitter. @nateryan for nascar, @NFLprguy for football, @pgammo 4 baseball #SportsPRChat |
| 6:00 pm | sherylgudelsky: | sportscenter, just always come home and turn in on #sportsprchat |
| 6:00 pm | jonlustig: | Q6 CBSSports.com is also a great source, wish they’d redesign though. #SportsPRChat |
| 6:01 pm | mikeschaffer: | Final Question – Who ya got on Sunday? (Caps over the Pens is an acceptable answer!) #SportsPRChat |
| 6:01 pm | tshepard: | Q6- @mikeschaffer #SportsPRChat |
| 6:01 pm | paullucci: | @mikeschaffer SAINTS #SportsPRChat |
| 6:02 pm | stephmajercik: | Yes, watch it every morning RT @sherylgudelsky: sportscenter, just always come home and turn in on #sportsprchat |
| 6:02 pm | JeremyNPike: | #SportsPRChat No one is playing at a higher level of football than Peyton Manning right now. Colts. |
| 6:02 pm | BGleas: | Final Question – Rooting for Colts, but I think the Peyton love-fest this week might be too much and the Saints will surprise #SportsPRChat |
| 6:02 pm | stephmajercik: | @mikeschaffer I’m going for the Saints. I feel like they’re the underdog #sportsprchat |
| 6:02 pm | stearnscd: | Q6 – Lately Twitter, but ESPN and SI websites, ESPN radio and TV for updated. SBJ for sports business info #SportsPRChat |
| 6:03 pm | tshepard: | Can I choose eTrade? I love those darn baby ads #SportsPRChat |
| 6:03 pm | Jfavreau: | Final Q. You mean there is a game SUN? JK. Saints and Caps! #sportsprchat |
| 6:04 pm | SportsandaLatte: | Saints have a lot of emotion and momentum behind them, but then again so do the Colts lol I’ll go with Saints…I think? lol #sportsPRchat |
| 6:04 pm | djreich: | All I have to say is a big, loud, trademark-free #WHODAT! Go Saints! #SportsPRChat |
| 6:04 pm | Sean_Flynn: | RT @mikeschaffer: I’m taking Eenu. (Puppy Bowl) http://bit.ly/15KwDF #SportsPRChat And the Saints. |
| 6:04 pm | MVNUSID: | Final Question – Rooting for a very entertaining game with a surprise MVP making the difference. Final: Saints 31, Colts 28 #SportsPRChat |
| 6:05 pm | mikeschaffer: | RT @Sean_Flynn: RT @mikeschaffer: I’m taking Eenu. (Puppy Bowl) http://bit.ly/15KwDF#SportsPRChat And the Saints. |
| 6:05 pm | mikeschaffer: | RT @tshepard: Can I choose eTrade? I love those darn baby ads #SportsPRChat |
| 6:06 pm | mikeschaffer: | I’m genetically unable to root for the Colts [part of being a Ravens fan] – so GO SAINTS!!! #SportsPRChat |
| 6:06 pm | _nikimurray_: | Final question: Sam Adams in a win over Jose and Jack. #SportsPRChat |
| 6:07 pm | jonlustig: | Q7 I wanna see the Saints pull the upset, which still tells you what I think. And yeah, go Caps! #SportsPRChat |
| 6:07 pm | mikeschaffer: | RT @_nikimurray_: Final question: Sam Adams in a win over Jose and Jack. #SportsPRChat |
| 6:07 pm | ThatGuyHugs: | Bud over Bud Light #BudBowl #sportsprchat |
| 6:07 pm | mikeschaffer: | This final question may have given us the best answers EVER #SportsPRChat |
| 6:07 pm | jfurie: | RT @djreich: All I have to say is a big, loud, trademark-free #WHODAT! Go Saints! #SportsPRChat |
| 6:08 pm | Jfavreau: | RT @mikeschaffer: RT @_nikimurray_: Final question: Sam Adams in a win over Jose and Jack. #sportsprchat |
| 6:08 pm | RobertCInnis: | Q6 I’m all sports center or espn news. #sportsprchat http://myloc.me/3uTVW |
| 6:08 pm | _nikimurray_: | …But I choose the Saints over Peyton Manning. #SportsPRChat |
| 6:08 pm | Jfavreau: | RT @Sean_Flynn: RT @mikeschaffer: Im taking Eenu. (Puppy Bowl) http://bit.ly/15KwDF#SportsPRChat And the Saints. #sportsprchat |
| 6:08 pm | stearnscd: | The Saints. And Pepsi for pulling #SuperBowl ad spending for this: http://www.refresheverything.com#SportsPRChat |
| 6:09 pm | stephmajercik: | Great chat today! Thanks everyone! Esp @mikeschaffer #sportsprchat |
| 6:09 pm | kelle6: | I’m going for the underdogs…Saints, with a good game from Reggie Bush! #sportsprchat |
| 6:09 pm | jclamarca: | Final Q: Very late to the party. No qualms with either team but as a #Giants fan, I keep it within the conference: Go Saints #SportsPRchat |
| 6:09 pm | mikeschaffer: | Thank you for a phenomenal #SportsPRChat! We covered a LOT of ground this week! See you next Thursday at Noon EST! |
| 6:10 pm | BGleas: | Great work again @mikeschaffer #sportsprchat |
| 6:10 pm | UOsportsdude: | There’s a good chance that a Pierre will win super bowl MVP. Who ever woulda thought that? #sportsprchat |
| 6:10 pm | djreich: | @jfurie Thanks for the RT Buddy. So excited to be in NOLA 3 days after the Super Bowl. #WHODAT#SportsPRChat |
| 6:10 pm | tshepard: | Thanks @mikeschaffer and @BWFPR! Great #SportsPRChat as always! |
| 6:10 pm | JeremyNPike: | @mikeschaffer #SportsPRChat That was a lot of fun. Thanks for doing this! |
| 6:11 pm | djreich: | RT @stearnscd: The Saints. And Pepsi for pulling #SuperBowl ad spending for this:http://www.refresheverything.com #SportsPRChat |
| 6:11 pm | mikeschaffer: | Watch out for the transcript coming shortly! #SportsPRChat |
| 6:11 pm | RobertCInnis: | RT @SportsandaLatte: Q6: ESPN, SBJ subscription, and my timeline on Twitter #sportsPRchat.. How can I get a sbj subscription? I need one. |
| 6:12 pm | Jfavreau: | Thanks @mikeschaffer for this chat. I am glad I finally tuned in! #sportsprchat |
| 6:13 pm | Jfavreau: | RT @mikeschaffer: TY for a phenomenal #SportsPRChat! We covered a LOT of ground this week! See you next Thurd at Noon EST! #sportsprchat |
| 6:13 pm | tshepard: | @Sean_Flynn You have me looking up the Puppy Bowl roset (pathetic). My money’s on Bear… what a cutie! #SportsPRCh |
Pitchman Tiger Woods – Discontinued
December 12th, 2009 — Pop Culture, PR, Sports
I went shopping this morning, hoping to beat the crowds to the supermarket. After three weeks away, our pantry was barren and our fridge was empty, so it was a much-needed trip.
My grocery store usually has Powerade Zero for a decent price, so I stopped by to pick up a few bottles.
I grabbed their two new flavors (orange and lemon-lime!) and scanned the rest of the aisle and saw a huge tag shouting “DISCONTINUED ITEM” with a ridiculously low price.
What could this item be that was once worthy of a prominent placement in a major-chain grocery store that has now ceased production?
Tiger Woods-sponsored Gatorade flavors.
Yes, just days after the company dropped their sponsorship, the bottles were practically being given away.
Of course, there is the moral dilemma: I like the product and it is insanely cheap…but…it’s got the name of a confessed adulterer on it. (Disclosure – my company has worked with Tiger Woods’ Foundation and handled the PR for events Tiger has appeared in.)
I held the bottle in my hand for a moment and thought, “Hot damn, that’s a good price!” and put it in my basket and moved on to find sweet potatoes, hummus and Kashi cereal. (Note – those are items I consume separately, not ingredients in a dish!)
As consumers, we like to say we don’t put a lot of stock into pitchmen and sponsorships, but they really do impact our purchasing habits. Vitamin Water, for example, seemed like a fairly “granola” concept, a drink filled with vitamins and minerals, perfect for us liberal hippies, right? Well, once 50 Cent had his name on one of their flavors, the entire line gained a new audience.
So, in the reverse, if Tiger Woods has become Public Enemy #1, would his name on a bottle of Gatorade deter you from buying it? Obviously the Powers-That-Be at Gatorade HQ thought so and severed a long-term agreement with the global golf icon.
Tiger’s image over the past decade has been one of excellence, dignity, class, with an appreciation for the finer things in life, like nice cars and watches. Buick became a “cool” line because Tiger endorsed them.
It seemed like the endorsements came to define Woods, who quietly dominated his sport.
But for now, at least, it seems that companies don’t want to be associated with him, as he tries to keep his family business out of the spotlight.
And, for now, his Gatorade flavors are off the shelves of grocery stores.
What do you think? Was Gatorade’s action knee-jerk or a good long-term move?
